Benavidez v the winner of Bivol v Beterbiev

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  1. lepinthehood

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    Beating Benavidez isnt much at all, hes just another Ramirez with slightly quicker hands. Eclipse must be his brother or something.
     
  2. steviebruno

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    Were you impressed by Bivol's performance against Ramirez?
     
  3. Eclipse

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    What if David beats either of them, is he an ATG? He would have better resumes than both, and 2 division champ.
     
  4. lepinthehood

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    Why are you bigging up Andrade and Plant as top wins? Both decent fighters but hardly elite.
     
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    Well Ramirez weighed about 200lbs, and was schooled and clowned. Bivol stood infront of him and just took the mick. Good performance from Bivol, wouldnt say elite, he wasnt fighting an elite. Just a decent fighter who was weight bully. Bivol playing with Canelo was more impressive.
     
  6. Eclipse

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    Cool, can you list Beterbiev's elite wins? And Canelos why you are at it.
     
  7. steviebruno

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    What do the numbers say?

    131 total punches landed, at a 20% connect percentage. 5 rounds in which he landed 3 power punches or less. Outlanded in four rounds.

    Not impressive at all.

    That's just not going to get it done against David Benavidez. A "Ramirez with slightly faster hands" possibly wins the fight. Benavidez is MUCH faster than Ramirez, though, and just plain better overall.
     
  8. lepinthehood

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    Benavidez will be led like a dog? Bivol has the best footwork in the sport of boxing, he stays with in an inch of his opponents reach and hardly gets hits. Benavidez has a leaky defence. Work it out. Bivol 10-2 ramirez if im being generous.
     
  9. lepinthehood

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    Canelo beat Plant more impressively than Benavidez. He also beat better fighters than Andrade Like Jacobs, Derevychenko and GGG 3rd. Andrade was a proven at beating bums max, zero resume. Are you comparing canelos resume to andrades now? See how it works when you think you can troll.
     
  10. lepinthehood

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    Im unsure that @steviebruno or @Eclipse have any idea about the nullifying of a dangerous opponent.
     
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  11. Eclipse

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    Lets try again and answer my question this time. List Canelo's elite wins.
     
  12. steviebruno

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    He is effective at moving away from contact and will throw punches with no intent to land -let alone do damage- in order to facilitate his escape tactics. His numbers against Ramirez were atrocious. He could possibly run away and steal rounds off of Benavidez. Sure.

    For half a fight.

    When DB turns up the heat, though, it will be one guy chasing another guy around and stabbing him with probing and piercing punches while the other guy runs away.

    I don't think Dmitry Bivol is in his prime anymore and it will show against a hungry fighter like Benavidez.
     
  13. lepinthehood

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    Answer why you think Benavidez is more proven than Bivol and Beterbiev, then amswer why you think he can beat them.

    If not jump onto your original account and dont be a coward.
     
  14. lepinthehood

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    Bivol wont move back from Benavidez for long, he will be in and out, seriously its one thing beating up a blown up middleweight with zero good wins on his resume, and decent but featherfisted smw who cant punch. Bivol is probably stronger than Benavidez by the way, so in the clinch id back Bivol to nullify, hes not huge but hes very well conditioned, not a weight bully who relies on bulked up waterweight.
     
  15. steviebruno

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    Bivol will do everything you say he will.

    He'll do all of it... to the tune of 130 punches landed, at a 20% connect rate.

    Maybe it won't be enough this time around. Just a thought.