Losses mean NOTHING

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  1. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. But you can go too far in the other direction like with giving fighters credit for winning the belt multiple times. An acheivement that requires multiple losses in important fights.

    While fighters having a 0 late in their career is now common fighters completing one with a 0 is still rare. Most zeros are held by aspiring contenders who are at a point in their career where multiple losses will hurt them. Once a fighter is established as a perennial contender the importance of the 0 diminishes and most fighters lose it.
     
  2. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Man,

    Just seen the post fight interview.

    Looks like a proper melon splitter.

    Kind of thing you see in rugby league when they get caught on the top of the head with a knee.
     
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  3. Komaster

    Komaster **** All Computers Full Member

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    Casuals love the '0'
     
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  4. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Depends.

    You can lose one fight with a cruiser but not twice and once with a fat man.
     
  5. PorcelainCrypt

    PorcelainCrypt New Member Full Member

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    Losses mean a lot, unfortunately.
     
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  6. monaim

    monaim Member Full Member

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    At some point, boxing became a sissy sport. If Hagler had a career today, he would have retired after his loss to Willie Monroe.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Crawford has no losses

    But is still a loser

    What is his best win ? Car crash zombie Spence? Or amir khan?

    Lmao
     
  8. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    The current situation in professional boxing looks completely different. Losses mean EVERYTHING.
    Now I will name a few professional boxers, current champions to confirm this:
    Oleksandr Usyk 21 0 0
    Tyson Fury 34 0 1
    Artur Beterbiev 20 0 0
    Dmitrii Bivol 22 0 0
    Terence Crawford 40 0 0
    Devin Haney 31 0 0
    Naoya Inoue 26 0 0
    Canelo, Loma, AJ, or any other boxer who experienced defeat is still not as big a star today as the boxers I listed.
    Or you think otherwise?
     
  9. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, losses aren't that important. The problem is the perceived dent on marketability because being undefeated has been so promoted many conflate it with being the best. As people said in years gone by, being undefeated often just means you haven't fought anyone.
     
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  10. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I will give big credit to a fighter that fights top guys and losses, than to someone like Tank.
     
  11. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :pipi
     
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  12. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don’t especially like him but Canelo is a bigger name in the sport than all of those guys.

    Manny Pacquiao lost 8 times and was still arguably the biggest name in the sport.

    Losses mean nothing if a fighter rebounds quickly.
     
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  13. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    I'm not saying that defeat should mean everything, nor does it mean everything to me.
    I'm just saying how I think boxing fans view boxing today.
    The argument for Manny Pacquiao is valid, but again I don't think today's boxing fans see him as greater than Floyd, who has zero :)
     
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  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't say losses men nothing, but they don't mean everything. So many fighters get written off after 1 or 2 losses or even a bad performance or two, but a loss can also be a positive if a fighter learns from their mistakes. Fundora's performance last night proved that, yes the cut helped him but even with the cut had he fought like he did vs Mendoza, Tszyu would of beaten him. Losses can be opportunities for fighters to become better fighters.

    I'd argue a fighter with a loss or even a few losses reached closer to the limits of their potential than a fighter who never lost because the fighter that never lost never had to overcome the same kind of adversity so has untapped potential.
     
  15. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Tell that to poor Hulk Hogan that bled from the mouth and lost the match from a bear hug to Brock Lesner back in 2003.

    The moment I saw that, I said to myself, Hulk is a pile of ****.

    Losses mean everyone to a casual
     
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