Julian Jackson Tribute - Where Does He Rank Among The Mythical Punchers?

Any list of the greatest punchers of all time must include Jackson. The power he demonstrated was often shocking. One punch knockouts where the recipients of those punches were out cold before they even hit the canvas.

 

Spot on Bert,,pound for pound not too many names come to mind of people who may have hit harder. Many of his ko's were absolutely chilling,,,,

 

I've said it before, but it's relatively rare that KO's happen because of just one punch. Typically it's an accumulation. One punch may do more damage than others and of course one-punch KO's do happen, but usually a fighter has to break a guy down. Jackson didn't get that memo. It isn't just that he stopped opponents so routinely with one punch, it was how there was never any doubt that the one punch ended matters. How the opponents fell, how there were rarely any preliminary punches thrown to set the table for that one shot. It was just one shot, nearly always. And that was his norm.

He's probably the hardest puncher I've seen since I got into watching boxing faithfully in 1983. He stands alone.

 

Top 5 hardest puncher ever at Jr Middleweight/Middleweight end of.

 

Obviously. He's the hardest P4P puncher in the last 50 years at least. He just turned guys off.

 

Well said on all accounts. It’s both amazing & fitting that a fighter effectively never comes around who can do everything - box like Pep, hit like Foreman, go & go & go like Armstrong etc. Nature balances things out I guess.

 

Jackson was the hardest punching Jr. Middleweight in history, and I'd say top five in Middleweight history.
I can't think of one fighter that did just " turned out the lights" on as many opponents that were relatively fresh as Jackson did.
Jackson didn't need to wear an opponent down....
He just needed to land cleanly.
Hearns may have hit harder with his dynamite right hand. But even he couldn't do it with the variety of punches Jackson did.
Valdes, Carter, Briscoe, Lee, Hart, Hearns, Graziano, Zale, Benn, McCellean, Mugabi, Sibson, Robinson, all ferocious punchers in their own right, and many others through out the long and rich history of middleweight boxing didn't have quite the show stopping power of J.Jackson in his prime.

 

Maybe....
But same could be said for Jackson's ko
of Drayton.
Valdes ko of Briscoe in their 1st fight can be seen as he landed the perfect shot at the perfect time simply because they fought a 2nd time, and he didn't duplicate it , or close to it.
Jackson seemed to ko most opponents he faced in a similar fashion,
suddenly, regardless of their reputation for toughness, Jackson could take out all but the very best he faced with one shot early in a fight.
The ones he didn't take out wasn't because he didn't hurt them, but because they were skilled enough to avoid his power.

 

He was an absolute monster .. one of the best that we have on film .. now to compare, image if we had more footage of Langford, basically the same sized guy if he stayed at his prime weight who not only flattened heavyweights but was stated by many of them as far and away the hardest hitter they ever fought ... Fitz has to be there too ... we can attempt arguments that styles were antiquated but power is power.

Here's a poem about Langford from his day ..

Who'll fight Sam Langford?

Who'll fight Sam Langford?
"Not I," said Stanley K.,
"Britt has taken me away
And I'm signed to do a play.
Then I'm going to the hay.
I'll not fight Sam Langford."

Who'll fight Sam Langford?
"Not I," said Jack the Twin,
"I am careful of my chin
And I'm pretty near all in,
And suicide's a sin.
I'll not fight Sam Langford."

Who'll fight Sam Langford?
"Not I," is Papke's wail,
"I'm a lily white and pale
And my life is not for sale;
Why I'd sooner go to jail.
I'll not fight Sam Langford"

Who'll fight Sam Langford?
"Not I," said Kid McCoy,
"I'm a pretty game old boy,
But this unrefined employ
I will leave for hoi polloi.
I'll not fight Sam Langford"

Who'll fight Sam Langford?
"Not I," said poor old Fitz,
"Though I'd fight for just six bits,
Still I haven't lost my wits;
I'll preserve my speckled mitts.
I'll not fight Sam Langford."

Who'll fight Sam Langford?
"Not I," said Hugo Kelly,
"He would pound me to a jelly
And I'd lose some vermicalli.
Not for me. What ta helli?
I'll not fight Sam Langford."

Who'll fight Sam Langford?
"Not I," said Joe da Grim,
"I no like to fight with him
Cause he shutta up my glim
And da chances are too slim.
I'll notta fight Sam Langford."

Who'll fight Sam Langford?
"Not I," Al Kaufman said,
"You are crazy in the head.
Chase yourself and go to bed.
I ain't anxious to be dead.
I'll not fight Sam Langford."

Who'll fight Sam Langford?
"Not us," the low brows cried
And they turned around to hide.
"Nix; the color line is wide,
And we're going to stay inside.
We'll not fight Sam Langford."

 

Hi Flash.
Don't want to appear perdantick , but it was in their 2nd fight that Valdez stopped Briscoe, they had fought in New Zealand in 73 with Valdez earning a hard fought points decision, but he was made to pay, Bennie wreaked havoc on Rodrigo's mid section, post fight he was in a bad way, and spent weeks recovering, has the forum ever had a topic on the best body punchers ? pretty sure Briscoe would be up there with the cream of the crop.
stay safe buddy, chat soon.

 

A name often overlooked is Bob Satterfield ... I read Joe Louis saying he thought Satterfield hit harder than Marciano and Cleveland Williams said Satterfield hit harder than Liston .. when you consider Satterfield was basically a 180 pound fighter, that's something ..