Joe Frazier vs these boxer types

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Does Frazier go undefeated?

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  2. No

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  3. Mixed results

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Carl Williams
    Buster Douglas
    Tony Tucker
    Tony Tubbs
    Pinklon Thomas

    Does Frazier go 5-0?
     
  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Yes

    Frazier cuts the ring too well and none of them can keep him off him.

    Tubby is too fat and once Frazier hits him to the body, it’s over,

    Tucker would likely stagger him with a few uppercuts early but once Frazier would start landing big hooks, TNT goes into survivor mode and loses a decision.

    I actually give Douglas the best chance with his superb combination punching. But unlike Tyson, Frazier would increase his work rate as rounds progress. I think Frazier decisions Douglas.
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    What about Williams and Thomas?
     
  4. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Williams couldn’t avoid a left hook to save his life. While Frazier did not hit as hard as Tyson, his hook was almost as hard and he threw it more due to it being his main weapon. Frazier decimates Williams in 5 rounds. Once his left hook lands, Williams would be staggered and a series of hard left hooks should finish it.

    Thomas has a better chance but if anyone can slip his jab and hammer away at his body, it’s Frazier. Once Thomas’s security blanket is taken away, it will be difficult for him. He does not have the uppercut and combination punching of a Douglas to trouble Frazier. He has a good straight right which May stagger Joe once or twice but Frazier will get through. IMO Fraziers ability to cut off the ring, slip the jab and hammer away the body at high work rate would be too much. Frazier decisions him.
     
  5. HomicideHank

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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    i do
     
  7. Niels Probst

    Niels Probst Member banned Full Member

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    I think he would probably win over all of them, but this is heavyweight, so I voted 'mixed results'... I am a coward.. ;) ( I have my doubts with a prime Thomas).
     
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  8. Reinhardt

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    5-0 and he pummels this bunch
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Even Tony Tucker????
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    I’d favor him to beat all five. On the right nights some of them would linger in with him and make Joe work for the win. Carl Williams wouldn’t last long. He had a career long problem with left hooks and now he’d be up against the master of throwing that punch. Not to mention Joe’s ability to slip the jab which is Truth’s best weapon
     
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  11. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier getting undersold here. None of these five were even an imitation of the ’71 Ali Frazier proved too good for. None will hear the final bell over fifteen rounds.
     
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  12. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I voted "mixed results." I think Frazier would struggle with all of them. Carl Williams obviously could be stopped early, but physically he is not like anybody that JF beat easily. The Douglas of Mike Williams/Tyson would probably be too much for JF, Tucker and Tubbs could be good or they could be mediocre but both had the talent to beat JF. Pinklon Thomas is IMO, the biggest problem for JF. Thomas had a head like a rock, (watch his fight with hard hitting Mike Weaver where Thomas gets hit by punches he doesn't see and takes them easily), he had a great jab, power in both hands, and he is big (Ali, Foreman sized). Frazier, when faced with big fighters didn't have an easy time and all of the 5 listed are big.

    Frazier's big oppoents were Buster Mathis (6-3, fat 243) who went 11 rounds and was close on the cards, Joe Bugner (6-4,221) who went the distance,and Ali, and Foreman. Frazier performed at his best against people more his size. None of the 5 listed is physically like any fighter JF beat easily.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Tucker had an excellent chin, extending Tyson and Lewis the distance
     
  14. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Neither put suffocating pressure on like Frazier would, though. Simply, they couldn’t.