Stop making excuses for Haney......

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haney is a notorious weight bully and has been atleast 2 weightclasses bigger than most of his opponents.

    Yet when he gets a bit of a taste of his own medicine the excuses are flooding out....give me a break.
     
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  2. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    That's not "Taste of his own medicine". Haney was always playing by the rules. I don't see why it's wrong to take advantage of the rules that are in place and apply to all the competitors. Every full time fighter could do it if They had necessary discipline and commitment.
    Ryan on the other hand did not make contracted weight and got an unfair advantage.

    It's like comparing fighter taking illegal PEDs to fighter taking creatine or vitamins.
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you're saying your fine with Haney being 2 weightclasses bigger than all of his opponents and that's fair play for you but Garcia being 3 pounds heavier is cheating sound logic.

    The weight bully got bullied end of.
     
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  4. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The whole thing was set up years ago for Haney to become WBC champion without fighting anybody they ripped it off Lomachenko. Then when Lomachenko fought Haney they robbed him.

    Haney comes in 165lbs, he doesn't have to boil down to extremes if he didn't think it helped him. He got whooped simple as.

    I'm not being a hater but let's look at it straight, he's been getting hyped as the next Floyd Mayweather, with nothing to warrant that at all. His resume is paper thin.

    Garcia would have been the best name on his record had he won bar Lomachenko and he didn't really win that. Otherwise it's Kambosis (who Maxi Hughes was robbed against) and Linares and maybe Prograis. None of these were KO's only 1 was a shut out how did people think he was the next Floyd.
     
  5. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    I don't like the rules and would like for something to be done to stop it - but I don't blame fighters for taking advantage of them. Rules are the same for everyone. Also Haney is not "2 weightclasses bigger than all of his opponents", stop it.
    There are some old-school coaches in basketball that don't like the 3-point line and 3-point shot - but those are the rules that You play by, so You can't score only 2s, while other team out-shoots your from behind the 3 point line and then cry that You were cheated.

    So yes, it is a sound logic (Thank You!). It makes a distinction between fair and unfair (way of getting an advantage).
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haney has been bigger than a majority of his opponents and has enjoyed considerable size advantage in pretty much every fight.....so no it's not sound logic my guy.

    The weight bully got a taste of his own medicine now he knows what it feels like.

    But keep defending the notorious weight bully who shouldn't of even been lineal champion after getting a dubious decision over the much smaller Lomachenko.
     
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  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What rules??? He is cheating scumbag. He is buying referees and judges every fight. Rules surely says holding is illegal and he is holding for dear life. Just for round 7 alone he should have been DQed.
     
  8. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Yes he is.

    Do you even watch boxing?
     
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  9. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    A lot of fighters are bigger than most of their opponents within the current rule-set. Not sure in what world it makes cheating from the opponent justified. A lot of fighters are also stronger than most of their opponents, so I guess We should allow less gifted or disciplined fighters to take steroids to even the playing field.
    I take it that You don't like Devin and You got satisfaction from seeing him lose, nothing wrong with that - it's part of being a boxing fan.

    Hey @Dynamicpuncher - is that sound logic from out friend above )?
    For the record rules say that excessive holding is illegall.
     
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  10. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    Sometimes.
    Saying that Haney is "2 weightclasses bigger than all of his opponents" is objectively and verifiably wrong, but it was obviosly a hyperbole so I don't want to get stuck on it too much.
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haney has weighed up to 160 in a majority of his fights so no i don't feel much sympathy for the notorious weight bully who's had considerable size advantage in majority of his fights it's called justice in my books.

    As for me liking a fighter i could careless about Haney or Garcia i don't like either of them, i just find it hilarious people are making excuses for a notorious weight bully like Haney.
     
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  12. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    Well, listen - I'll disagree about your idea of "justice" and I'm scared to even ask what You'd call justice outside of sports, but in a wider legal system, within that framework - but as for Haney:
    I also wouldn't say I have a "sympathy" for him. He chosed to take extra $ and go ahead with a fight, but Garcia did get himself an unfair advantage and I can't give him full credit for the win.

    It's not all just about weight on the day of the fight. Even if it doesn't alway show, cutting weight and then putting it back on has it's costs, it doesn't make anyone better in objective sense. I'm sure Haney would've loved the opportunity to not have to cut those last couple pounds either.
     
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  13. Pimp C

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    Fundora has enjoyed a considerable size advantage against every one of his opponents..is he a weight bully to? No he's fighting within the rules. This weight bully **** is nonsense and simply an attempt to discredit fighters you don't like period. If he makes the weight he can fight in that class if that's the case you can say Haney was drained for all these fights if you want to play this weight bully game. You can't have it both ways.
     
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  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haney has had considerable weight advantage in all his fights.

    He got gifted a dubious decision against a much smaller Lomachenko.

    He was allowed to clinch continuously vs Garcia without point deductions and was on the floor a dozen times without any extra knockdowns called. And even had a judge trying to save the fight for him scoring it a draw.

    Hes had advantages in all his fights......so no as I keep saying I don't feel like Haney the weight bully got cheated its justice and a taste of his own medicine.

    I'm sorry I don't agree with your point of view that 160 pound Lightweight Haney is "fair play" I can't even type that with a straight face.
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I couldn't careless about Haney or Garcia I don't get emotionally involved with boxers I just call it as I see it.

    I just find it laughable people want to make excuses for Haney when hes 160 pound Lightweight who has weight advantages in all his fights.....

    I'm sorry I don't feel much sympathy for the weight bully.
     
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