Ryan Garcia's 3lbs made a lot of difference

Ryan had to be super close to making weight.

He wore shoes, pants, underwear on the scale and chugged about 6oz. of liquid and was "only" 3.2lbs over.

Had he stripped, shaved his head and not drank on stage, would he have made it?

 

I disagree.

For starters, he's still the champion.

For seconds... He can still beat plenty of guys a lot smaller than him by boiling down to the extremes he does - as long as he can do that, he'll have successes.

Realistically, he'll just make sure he never fights anyone his own size unless it's mandated - and he'll be able to get mandatory positions by fighting guys who can't boil down as hard as he can.

The rules haven't changed - the same loophole that's given him success until now is still open... He just has to carry on as he has.

 

Ultimately, yes.

And attitudes and knowledge has changed - I don't think athletes now would take the same chances they might've done in the past.

Personally I'd prefer same day weigh-ins - if fighters choose to risk their own health, it's their choice and their disadvantage... Under the current system, it's incentivising extreme cuts in order to hold an advantage - which if it presents risk to anyone, presents it to the other guy.

 

Perfectly put.

Ryan's unprofessionalism failing to make weight made a mockery of Haney's unsportsmanlike extreme weight cutting.

Ryan rightly doesn't win a belt, and loses money.
Haney rightly loses face and has no plausible excuses.

 

Then again... In the amateurs, power and punch resistance aren't quite as influential on outcomes.

If two fighters are clearly equal in the amateurs, but one punches harder and the other has a less good chin... Well, it'd stand to reason that the scales have tipped?


(And I thought Haney had developed more and would be too skilled!)

 

When did you start to watch boxing? yesterday?

What's stupid is to think that same day weigh in doesn't put figthers in danger. The weigh in has always been the same day of the fight, and it was changed because fighters were dying. And you can think I'm crazy, but I think that it is a damn good reason.

When they dehydrate the brain is dehydrated too, and when a dehydrated brain is punched bad bleedings happen and people die.

I dont like weight bullies (I dont really care actually, I dont hate them either), but asking for same day weigh in is utterly stupid. The only healthy and real option to avoid weight bullies is to weigh the fighters for months. I.e., weighing the fighters every week (or, even better, every day) for a month before the fight, so that they are forced to be at their real weight the day of the fight. I would agree with that rule for world championships for example, because it clearly cant be enforced in all figths.

 

Haney is always bigger than his opponent able to tie them up easily on the inside but this time fought a fighter just as big as him who wrecked him when he tried to hit and hold as per usual.

 

If you don't understand, having read my comment, then it's pointless trying to explain it again.

It gets to the point where stupidity becomes impenetrable and it's too exhausting trying to write paragraphs in an attempt to break it down for simpletons like you.

So, you read it again, have a good little think, try and get there, and take your time...I believe in you, kid.

P.S You sound like you were born yesterday, never mind started watching the sport yesterday.

 

lol Haney weighs like 170 on fight night. Keep crying daquarius

 

We will never know, because Garcia didn't make the weight. It may have taken Garcia hours in the sauna to make it, completely draining and his electrolytes, making him weaker because he no longer had the energy to run. If Ryan was spent and couldn't trully make the weight it would have totally drained him, then it would be a totally different fight.

 

Rehydrating don't matter, making weight matters. You don't make the weight, you don't get the credit.

 

I do feel it played some part, Haney had to suffer his body to get to 140, Garcia didn’t have to. But Haney fought a terrible fight

 

Well Ryan wore pants and shoes and had downed about 16 ounces of water or beer, so I doubt Garcia was actually three pounds over, maybe 1 or 1.5.

 

Get rid of the 140weight division..