WBC strikes again Haney is still the champion

If the title had have been vacant it would have remained vacant but Haney is the champion and Garcia didn't make weight. So it was a non title fight.

 

If one fighter can't make weight, it should be a non title fight.

 

Devon brought a 140lb title to the fight, but the fight was contested at 143.5. He should not lose his belt...

... But he also should not want it, as it has become hollow...if not meaningless. Even if he rematches Garcia, it won't be at 140.

He should just vacate and try to get his hands on another strap, honestly.

 

Yeah the public were misinformed and i think it's caused quite a bit of angst as seen in here. Haney obviously knew it was not on the line.

 

We're lucky we even got a fight as Haney didn't even have an obligation to fight after Garcia missed weight.

 

Nothing wrong with this. Haney hasn’t lost a fight against a fighter at the weight at which he holds the belt, so he retains the title.

When Bob Foster lost to Muhammad Ali he didn’t lose his Light Heavyweight title, because he wasn’t fighting against a Light Heavyweight.

 

Thats exactly what i thought too, if Garcia didnt make the weight anyways.

Like the cancelled Spinks-Muhammad 2 fiasco in 1983.

 

I thought it was strange that Haney was being forced to vacate a title if his opponent was the one that missed weight. Anyway, there's plenty of precedence for titleholders keeping their belts after suffering losses in fights above the weight. Most recent example I can think of is Jojo Diaz missing weight, before defeating then-WBA featherweight champ Jesus Rojas in what had become a non title match.

Haney retains his belt and rightfully so. He loses some standing in terms of lustre and in a pfp sense, but the strap should stay in his possession until he relinquishes it or loses it to someone who can actually make the 140lb weight.

 

WBC are already probably planning how they can gift Haney a WBC title at Welterweight as easily as possible.

 

Honestly I can't say im surprised or displeased. it wasn't really a junior welterweight fight and this has happened before with Rey Vargas Vs o'shaquie foster and Julio Cesar Martinez Vs Roman Gonzalez. it has precedent

 

OK but the question is, what examples are there of a title being vacated after a challenger misses weight then beats the Champion? Or has that never happened before, because many fans seem to be under the impression that if the Champion is defeated, even against a challenger who didn't make weight, in a match that has already been established as a title fight, it remains a title fight and the title would become vacant. There have been claims by some that this is a routine procedure if the challenger misses weight in a contracted title fight, the Champion could still choose defend his title.

Is this a situation where after Garcia missed weight, the WBC gave Haney the option of defend the title anyway or to not defend the title and make it a non-title fight? Did the WBC handle this any differently than the WBA, IBF or WBO has in the past in a situation such as this?

 

DAZN was lying through their teeth to promote the fight. This wasn't a real dispute now that the fight is over it doesn't matter.

 

It just goes to show what we old, Rose Colored Glasses wearing boxing fans have been saying for a long time now: that today's Fighters have nowhere near the skills, guts, resiliency or intensity of the past era fighters.

Haney is supposedly one of the pound for pound best fighters in the world today, and he got beaten by a guy that basically has a very low skill level but is fast and can punch. Even your lower end top 20 Fighters from the past would destroy either one of these guys.

 

Even after the fight, like in the Clarissa Shields interview for example, who was in attendence in the arena, everyone seemed to be under the impression that Haney has lost his title. So it's more than just DAZN. This is literally insane at the amount of people who were under the impression that Devin could lose his title.