How did Lomachenko lose to Teofimo Lopez and Devin Haney

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Delusional Loma fanboys lol Lopez beat him
     
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  2. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This 100%. He lost to Teofimo because he was far too patient, and perhaps a degree of naivety in not anticipating that Teofimo would fight the way he did (behind his jab patiently looking for openings).

    And there’s no way a challenger can take the 12th round off against a 4-belt champion, even if you are Vasiliy Lomachenko. Really naive, iirc if he had won the 12th on the judges’ scorecards, it would have been a draw. In that scenario, the public pressure on Haney to rematch Loma would have been massive, and there’s no way Haney could duck a rematch if it had been an official draw.

    Loma has himself to blame only.
     
  3. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Not overrated in the least. Styles make fights. Plus Loma wasn't fighting at his best weight, against big guys for that division.
     
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  4. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    Bad tactical decision making. Thought he could take off 7 rounds against Lopez and come back to win anyways.
    Said himself that he took off the last round after he beat the hell out of Haney in round 11, in what was realistically a close fight in his younger opponents country. Probably could've stopped him or atleast scored a knockdown, but nope fell victim to his own arrogance again.
    He's got to be one of the simultaneously smartest and dumbest fighters I've ever seen.
     
  5. Shazzar23

    Shazzar23 Demetrius Bivol Full Member

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    Loma' arrogance is once of his biggest detractions. Spot on.
     
  6. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I don’t think that really proves Loma’s overrated. He clearly had a ton of talent and a great overall career. I really dislike that fighters get so much hate after some losses.
     
  7. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know it sounds shocking but sLomo is exactly as good as his resume suggests. Beat T-Rex, old Linares, Rigo who had no business or apparent interest fighting 3 classes above his weight, that dude that beat Nonito and that British fella noone seem to remember by name. sLomo is more famous for getting title shots he never earned, losing to a 19 loss journeyman, losing to a mentally ill green kid, losing to an actually good boxer he received a gift against and losing to a chinny no-puncher that got whopped by an unprepared, unprofessional, mentally ill incel.

    Ouch.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He should only have one loss

    Brazen corruption against Salido and Haney against opponents who outweighed him by 11lbs and 20lbs respectively

    Fighting at a weight class he doesn't belong at and one which is only his third weight class because he turned pro at nearly 26. Had he turned pro in his late teens or at 20-21 it would be at least his sixth weight class with same day weigh ins and if he was a weight bully or a massive weight bully it would be even more than his sixth. He's completely maxed out at 135 and tiny for the weight. Age also

    Teofimo is actually a very talented and physically gifted fighter, was way bigger and heavier than Loma, and was a murderous puncher at 135. The hardest puncher at the weight at the time. Let's not forget his power even at 140 sent huge 140 pounder Josh Taylor into his shell

    Teofimo

    'He’s better off at 130 or 126. “I think that 135 is too heavy for him. I think that he’s too sluggish at 135. But let’s see, man. Let’s see what this whole one-year rest does for him.

    “I’m a big 135 pounder. I can be fighting at 140 right now. I’m very comfortable at this weight. Everything that this man does do that they say, he’s decreasing. I’m not even in my prime yet and I’m out here just outdoing guys. He’s on his way out, and it’s showing. Your body can only take so much damage, and I guarantee you we’re going to put some damage on this man.”

    “He’s on the way out of the sport and 135 is just too big ,” the Honduran-American said.

    Lomachenko, 32, started his career in 2013 as a 126-pounder. Lopez, 23, has fought at 135 since he turned pro in 2016.

    ''I think that he's on his way out. I really do believe that and 135 is just too much of a big weight class for him''

    ''If you look at the Luke Campbell fight, you can see there is just a lot of wear-and-tear on his body.

    “I look at it like this—maybe this whole COVID-19 year helped him out. Maybe he needed it. That way he can probably at least hang in there a little bit with me. It’s going to be a great fight. I just look at the facts. You see a fighter who has gone up in weight class. Sometimes they go up too much where their body isn’t used to it, or the weight class is too big for them.''

    “This man has had over 400 fights. I have over 150 fights. I’m 23. I’m going to tell you this, when I get to camp, oh man, my body aches sometimes. If I’m 23 and dealing with stuff at this age, I can only imagine what he must be going through at 32 with over 400 fights.”

    ''I'm not going to have a 126 pounder come out here and try and take over on me. I'm a big guy''

    “A lot of people talk very highly about him. But if you look at it, there were so many mistakes he made against Luke Campbell. Loma tries too hard to make everybody think he can still do it, even though he’s 32 years old.

    Interviewer: ''Lomachenko is small for the weight class''

    Teofimo: ''Very!''

    ''No 126 pounder is beating my son'' --Teofimo Lopez Sr.

    Day of the weigh in

    Lopez looking like a sunken-eyed cadaver slurring his words, Loma looking the picture of health. Loma looked healthy on the scales down at 126 for goodness sake

    ''Skinny Fimo now, but then you get the monster tomorrow''

    ''By tomorrow I'm going to look like a different man. A whole new man''

    --Teofimo Lopez

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    Shakur Stevenson

    Interviewer: ''You saw Loma recently, how was that?''

    Shakur: ''Yeah I seen him. He looked small. That's what I really was thinking. He's tiny for 135, I just moved up and I felt way bigger than Lomachenko''

    Interviewer: ''He's like a natural featherweight''

    Shakur: ''I think he should go back down. I think he'd be a lot better at 130''

    "Devin is too big. Like, I think the size ... don't get me wrong, Lomachenko can fight. Devin is way out of his weight class. He's going to make 35 and then shoot up to 150 or 160 (actually 160) nive times out of 10, and Lomachenko is going to be 137 or 138, so it's just not even fair to me."

    “I think he [Devin Haney] smokes Lomachenko.


    “I didn’t like the way he looked against Ortiz. I saw him in the gym two or three weeks ago, he looked like a 126lb fighter, he doesn’t look like a 135lb fighter.

    “I think Dev is too long and tall.”



    Loma is the one who put in all the hard work winning three belts individually on the road in a division full of giants he doesn't belong in, Teofimo and Haney were just massive weight bullies who won them or three of them in one fell-swoop against fighters they were way bigger than

    I said long ago that let's see Teofimo and Haney try to become undisputed in their third weight class or win three belts individually in their third one like Loma did and, as said, 135 is only Loma's third weight class because he turned pro at nearly 26 not in his teens or early 20s. And both Teofimo and Haney were gigantic weight bullies in their first weight class and would be way bigger at 147 than Loma is at 135. In fact, Haney would have to move up to like 168 to be giving away the kind of physical advantages Loma is at 135 and even higher to be giving away the kind of reach he is and that's with what Haney weighs in the ring now. Teofimo would likely have to move up to 160

    But what happened. Teofimo failed at the making the first defence mark at his first weight class, and one he was huge at. Sure he beat Josh Taylor in his second weight class which was a really good win but he should have lost to both Sandor Martin and Jermaine Ortiz at his second weight class

    And Haney lost in spectacular fashion in just his second fight at his second weight, a weight class he is absolutely massive for and he should have2 losses, to Loma and Garcia

    How do you think Teofimo and Haney fare up at 147 trying to win three belts individually up there? Super Boots is the power punching explosive athletic phenom at 147 that Teofimo was at 135 only far less proven, how many rounds do either Teofimo or Haney last against him? 1 or 2?

    Loma should be the current undisputed champ in his third weight class after getting robbed by the three home judges against a 20lb heavier, near six inch longer reach gigantic weight bully in their backyard who had a 36 hour weigh in to rehydrate in a fight between the smallest 135 pounder vs the biggest one ever

    Like I keep saying, these massive weight bullies look great when they're beating up on leprechauns they're much bigger than in their backyard on a deck heavily stacked in their favour but it's a different ballgame when they move up in weight and start fighting world champions and legit punchers their own size, bigger or much bigger.
     
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  9. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    people forget how tiny loma is
     
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  10. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Well Garcia would sleep Loma.
     
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  11. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I still rate Loma p4p number 1


    If everyone was the same size Loma would beat all more often than not
     
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  12. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Size matters. He is fightings in an era where modern advances have made the ability of younger fighters to drain themselves to dried husks and rehydrate some 20 to 30 lbs higher. It makes a mockery of the traditional weight class boundaries.

    And what @Flo_Raiden said above.

    Personally I find it hard to get invested in the lower weights because weight grifting means I don't actually know what weight the fighters would belong to compared to if there was still same day weigh ins.

    And they gave Haney EVEN MORE time than standard to rehydrate. Which for a guy with a reputation for abusing the system was disgraceful
     
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  13. IsaL

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    Far too patient is an understatement. Loma didn't do anything for the first six rounds. Lol

    Actually I think he barely snagged one round in the first six. You get my point.
     
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  14. IronMaster

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    No, Lopez did nothing from rounds 6 to 11, Lomachenko schooled him after a slow start. And there was one early round that could have been given to Loma. It was a close fight.
     
  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Couldn't school him in the 12th, literally got hurt, and waned in the 11th.
     
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