Devin Haney celebrating keeping his belt LOL

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Garcia probably saved a significant chunk of money not having to pay a sanctioning fee. Once he came in overweight, and he couldn't win the belt, he didn't have to the pay the fee.

    Garcia also won an additional $12 million for a bet he placed on himself.

    He didn't miss out on anything by not "winning" a belt in a division he can't physically compete in.

    There's no point in fighters drying out to make an arbitrary weight in those lower weight classes, if the weigh-ins are going to be held 40 hours before the fights and everyone enters the ring 20 pounds or more heavier by the time the bell rings.

    Maybe the orgs will go back to "day of the fight" weigh-ins if more fighters simply refuse to make weight and the orgs start losing out on sanctioning fees.

    Super Middleweights and Middleweights shouldn't be fighting for 140-pound belts.

    Moving the weigh-ins from the day of the fight to a day (or almost two) earlier, in the end, didn't save any lives. It was a knee-jerk reaction by the WBC that started it decades ago. They thought dehydrated fighters were more likely to get injured. But, moving the weigh-ins just made boxers who wouldn't normally dehydrate themselves go ahead and dry out to fight for smaller titles.

    Weigh ins today are just a weight-loss competitions that end about 40 hours before a fight.

    Honestly, how does that help anyone get ready?

    Just get in shape and enter the ring at your best weight. That's what fighters did for nearly the entirety of the 20th century.

    Knowing everyone is going to enter the ring in the 160s, but deciding to compete in a pointless weight-loss contest before the fight to get down to 140 for the few seconds you're on the scale, before you gorge yourself on fluids and food for the next day and a half, is INSANE.

    Garcia isn't CRAZY. Drying out for weigh ins is the crazy part.

    If nobody is willing to dry out anymore ... then the orgs don't get paid their sanctioning fees. And that's all they really care about.

    It wasn't always like this. Two guys used to actually weigh 137 or 138 a few hours before a 140-pound title fight and competed in the ring weighing WITHIN the weight class. That's why they created a whole "weight class."

    They don't need weight classes (136-140 for example) anymore, because nobody weighs in at the lower end of the weight class ... they just dry out so they can barely hit 140 for a couple seconds, then start immediately adding weight.

    Having weigh-ins on a Friday morning for a fight that takes place on Saturday at midnight has rendered the idea of a weight class totally pointless.

    Nobody even knows what those two guys actually weighed when they got in the ring, but it wasn't within 20 pounds of the actual division.
     
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  2. Hi-Tech

    Hi-Tech Active Member Full Member

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    What's funny is Garcia never been a world champ lol.
     
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  3. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Going back to same day weigh ins will make it a fairer playing field for all as well as also sorting the weight bully’s out ! Fighters deliberately missing weight will sharp grab the attention of the sanctioning bodies when there losing out on sanctioning fees !
     
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  4. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wonders if he'll be the same again after getting chinned. It's easy to be a strong lad while in the winners circle.
     
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  5. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excellent post, I'm all in on same day weigh ins with, if possible, some sort of medical / hydration check for the fighters safety.
     
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  6. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Who cares? Everybody knows Garcia is better than Haney now, let him keep his paper title.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    True but he messed up by not making the weight and getting the belt.
     
  8. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did he? At least 80% of people who watched the fight don't realize Haney still has the belt, and 99% of Ryan's social media following think Ryan has the belt.

    He pulled a Mayweather-Marquez to perfection. No one saw it coming.
     
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  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    At the end of the day he doesn't it would be a nice addition to his legacy to have won a championship belt he hasn't won one yet.
     
  10. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The importance of belts has eroded and it's their own fault. At any given weight class there are like 8 belts with all the "versions" and other bull****. Ryan put on a show and took an 0 and that's what his legacy will be about. I'm sure he'll grab a title one day, it really won't be hard to snipe one with his level of fame. The less anyone cares about belts the better for the sport.

    When there isn't one standard ranking system and one belt, then all belts are is a marketing tool.
     
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  11. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    He`s hot property now, doesn`t need the belt, big fights will come his way.
     
  12. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haney can wander all around wearing that belt and showing it off. But the people won’t see it. All they will see is a fool who got beat the **** up.
     
  13. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    Happy deluded day to you
     
  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    With the money he earns, does he even need any belts?
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Irrelevant. If you told garcia before the fight that he was going to beat Haney and not get the belt or beat Haney and get the belt which one do you think he would choose? I think Ryan would've beaten Haney that night whether he came in at 140 or 143 he was the better man. I'm simply saying it's better if he had won the belt instead of not being able to get it because he missed the weight. He's not the first and he won't be the last boxer that this happens to. Belts may not matter to fans but they do matter to boxers and they want as many as they can get during their careers. All boxers want that championship belt around their waist when they win a championship fight.
     
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