If Jack Johnson Had Lived In To His 90 's..?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    And seen the likes of Marciano and Ali?
    I'm sure the old champ would have had plenty to say.!
     
  2. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Doubt he'd have much of his faculties left if he somehow lived to his 90s.
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Would have loved to have seen him meet Ali ... easily could have happened if he made it to his later 80's ...
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    You never know, look at Schmeling.
    My old grandad was 92 when he passed and he was all there still.
     
  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yes he could have, would have been an interesting meet!
    The ego s!!
     
  6. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Aside from the boxing and head trauma, Johnson was a heavy drinker. He literally died drunk driving. Very few men born in the 1870s lived past their 80s even without all that. Johnson would have been lucky to make it much past his 70s.
     
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  7. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Johnson would DEFINITELY have something to say about those eras, to say the least lol
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    What if he met Lennox Lewis??
     
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  9. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I doubt he would’ve liked any version of Ali but who can say for sure.
     
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  10. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Not sure he'd get to meet him..
     
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  11. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Well let's say that he's one of those remarkable fighters that drunk and got hit like hell but still lives to a ripe old age?
     
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  12. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With Johnson's fast life, it is amazing he lived as long as he did. Oddly when he was killed in that car wreck in 1946, he was like only 5 years away from Rocky Marciano's era. Not sure he would of made it to Ali though. he be in about his mid 80's so you never know.
     
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  13. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I reckon that they'd have hit it off pretty well.
     
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  14. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very possible as they could have bonded over their heritage - but I have my doubts. Johnson seems very competitive with, & not especially empathetic to, other Blacks. He may also have resented Ali’s complaints about Black life in the 60’s when he himself had it much worse. Ali seems like he would make overtures to Johnson though, he both respected & was mystified by the man.

    I notice, on the other hand, Ali is pretty supportive with Boxers who came later than himself but abused the hell out of his contemporaries, so maybe without Ali as a ring rival, Johnson chills out with age, too.
     
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  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    That would have been an incredible thing to happen.

    Johnson was one the most intelligent men ever to hold the heavyweight title, if not the most intelligent.

    He was far from being the most reliable witness, but his observations would have been more than interesting.

    Best of all, he would have lived to see an era, where his no compromise approach could win through in teh end.

    On a side note, Rocky Marciano living to 90 is also a fascinating what if.