Do you think Ryan Garcia cheated?

Voted yes. Only because I'm sure they are all at it so would if voted yes for any fighter

 

Didn't even attempt to make weight. Has tested positive for Ostarine and subject to further testing, will likely test positive to 19-Norandrosterone as well.

Garcia is a next level cheat.

 

They all do

It just depends if you are smart enough to get away with it

 

Nope, not like that.

If Garcia is on something, so is Haney and anyone who can lose and gain so much weight in a short time

 

I think people who took chemistry in the Ivy League are less likely to be wrong than Ryan Garcia.

 

Possibly
He does hide behind religion a lot
But I will withhold casting judgement
Till all the facts come out.

 

Cant be certain but the probability of him being a cheat i would put at 90%

 

Well said people hyped Teofimo up so much put him in the top 10 p4p after beating Taylor even though Teofimo lost to Sandor Martin and lost to Jamaine Ortiz and Taylor should not have had the title going into the fight because he lost to Jack Catterall.

 

Yes

 

Genuinely don't think any of these guys intentionally go into a fight taking roids or whatever other enhancing drugs.....a lot of them just aren't very smart and their trainers couldn't give a **** about them either so long a they're making money off their backs.

 

You have a good point. Those were the only test results that could have been manipulated without making the actual fight get cancelled. The tests from further out had probably already been analyzed and had came up clean.

They thought they were gonna whoop him and only bothered to set him up(if its actually the case) afterwards, after the unlikely upset. Only way to salvage the situation.


However its also possible that he just peed out the metabolites at a higher rates when cutting weight(which he did regardless if he came in overweight) and therefore couldnt mask them.


The 19-nor is highlu suspect. Nobody takes nandrolone on purpose in a drug tested sport. It has clearance times of over 18 months and basically sterilizes you.

Dont think fury took nandrolone on puprose either, the PEDs they actually took may have just have had some residual contamination.

If you take a shot of a undetectable steroid and it just happens to be contaminated with 1% nandrolone from the lab where it was produced you could still test positive for weeks.

 

If it is a set up, then it makes sense to have him **** dirty late enough so as to not have the fight cancelled and Haney still gets a payday. Now, they're talking about ostarine being in tainted marijuana. So the operation to get ostarine in Garcia's system, at just the right time, is pretty nigh on impossible, but still possible. Or there is a corrupted tester that has put ostarine in Garcia's sample. Again, that seems more possible as you can put it in the sample when you want. Still, seems a level of corruption that is unlikely, hard to get away with, and involving more than one person one would think. Again, nigh on impossible, but possible. Now is Garcia lying? It's possible, which would make him one hell of a POS but then again, it's all show and self promoting today; so, he taking it then denying it, which is quite usual, isn't so far fetched and isn't really a hard thing to have on one's conscience if you're so used to self promoting, and treating the fans as idiots. He also told Abdul in a private exchange he didn't take anything, which is interesting and is maybe just this blithe attitude to lying on display. Hard to guage.

Now if he took something unwittingly, well it's one hell of a coincidence he did so at the perfect time right at the end so the fight would go ahead, or someone gave him something without knowing what it was, or because he was drinking and smoking so late into the build up, he ingested something on accident isn't outside the realm of possibility.

Now did he take something knowingly, at the end, and used this whole drinking and marijuana show to be an explanation when he got popped for osterine, something that increases endurance? His bizarre behaviour, seemingly out of nowhere, including spouting conspiracy theories - that is interesting. Right now it's hard to say and with Bill Haney in the mix, you just can't rule out something highly unlikely, but not impossible.

Most likely for me right now, is he knew what he was doing and the pre fight act was part of the cover. Garcia has that kind of mind. It seems to fit and if you've read his tweets there's no categorical denial but a lot of dodgy tweets about Trump being treated unfairly, not knowing what ostarine is etc etc. Very weird and fishy. His management should have prepared a statement, like Haney, after the fight. Where is this? Why just dumb videos about it? Is he so calm and collected because he knows he's innocent, or is it overcompensation from a guilty man?

I suspect more will come out in the coming days.