Ryan Garcia tests positive for PED Ostarine

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MidniteProwler, May 1, 2024.


Ban Garcia from boxing?

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  2. No

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  1. Chessboxer

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    No, but 2 years minimum, considering fighters generally dont fight more than 2x a year these days.
     
  2. Chessboxer

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    There is also alternate agendas. Im a Haney fan but he widely hated on this forum, and haters will take Garcias side out of spite for Haney. Even invoking ridiculous conspiracies about the testing parroted by Garcia cultish fanbase.
     
  3. Reppin501

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    Wait…How do you arrive at the conclusion it “barely enhances his performance”?
     
  4. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Lol, such as what?
     
  5. TISONLYONEKING

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    I’m hoping for a 2 year ban to set a new precedent. A year isn’t enough in today’s fight game because the top guys fight twice a year, if that.

    He shouldn’t be banned for life, no.
     
  6. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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  7. Bokaj

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    Anyone who can't separate draining down within the rules to cheating isn't to be taken seriously.
     
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  8. Bokaj

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    So much wrong with this. Garcia isn't a proven drug cheat until the B test comes back positive. The one proven drug cheat, who's also been suspended for it, is Fury.

    AJ, like Haney, hasn't failed a single test.
     
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  9. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Disagree.
    The weight classes are there to even the playing fields. It´s to make the fights as competitive as possible on paper.
    147 is meant for boxers to weigh in up to 147. 140 is there so that smaller guys don´t have to compete with the 140lb guys.
    Because idiots wanted to get an edge, they started dehydrating themselves to make said limits.
    So for their protection, the athletic commissions and belt organizations instituted the day before weigh ins, to help boxers recover from dehydration. This little step basically negated the original intention of having weight classes.
    And said idiots now have even more of a chance at dehydrating themselves.

    So now we get guys weighing in at 147 while being 164 on fight night. It´s stupid and cheating to a degree.
     
  10. Bokaj

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    No, it isn't cheating by definition since it's within the rules. What you personally feel is neither here nor there.

    If you don't like the rules, fine, follow another sport. Or try and have them changed or whatever. But rules are rules and there of course is a difference between following them ot not. It's so simple.

    And it's also quite random who gets hated for it. Benavidez clearly drains a massive amount and is likely the biggest SMW around today, but that seems to be fine. Same with Callum Smith when he was at 168.

    They're weight bullies if they beat the guy you like. If you like them and they lose or just lose to the guy you dislike they're drained.

    This whole thing is just made up to have your excuses. But the reality stays the same: following the rules isn't cheating.
     
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  11. Badbot

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    No, the actual rules are that you must weight in at a certain weight. The idea behind that is to make the fights more even. Weighing in at one weight class and actually being two weight classes above on fight night is cheating the idea of weight classes. It´s BS.
     
  12. Bokaj

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    The actual rule is that you have to weigh a certain weight at the weigh in. Haney has met that requirement every single time as far as I know.

    Garcia could not meet that requirement (despite possible being smaller, even though I'm not sure of that) and he has failed the A test, which Haney haven't. That's the difference that matters.
     
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  13. Badbot

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    Yes, that is the rule.
    But fighting on fighting 2 or more weight classes above the agreed upon weight is just BS. It is effectively cheating even if it doesn´t break any actual rules.
     
  14. Bokaj

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    Only in your made up world. In the real world cheating is breaking actual rules, not the ones you wish were in place.
     
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  15. Badbot

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    Cheating: "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage."
    I´d say putting on 20lbs by fight night is pretty ****ing dishonest. Quite literally by definition.