Mayweather was an extremely risky and gutsy fighter not a defensive runner

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  1. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty Boy Floyd was awesome to watch

    Money Mayweather was a runner
     
  2. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Risky?!?! LOL Mayweather is the opposite of risky. I know everyone has an opinion, but how the **** can you reach that conclusion?

    If he was gutsy he would have fought prime versions of Pacquiao/Oscar De la Hoya/Khan.

    He quite blatantly ducked Khan to fight Maidana. I'm not saying Khan would beat Mayweather, but Mayweather straight up ducked him because he was a risk. He put out a poll saying he'd fight whoever got voted for next, it was Khan, he chose Maidana. Khan vs Mayweather would have been way more $$$ and way more exciting than Maidana too. You're a fool to think Mayweather wasn't aware of the risk from Khan

    Mayweather picked his opponents carefully:

    Pacquiao - he aged him out.
    Canelo - good win, but arguably drained.
    Mosley - 42 year old
    Marquez - old, small
    ODLH - OLD on the decline, still almost won
    Ricky Hatton - prime weight was 140, looked trash at 147 went straight back down to 140.. Guess what weight Mayweather fought him at?

    These are some of Mayweather's best wins....are you serious?
     
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  3. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everyone who gets in a boxing ring is unbelievably courageous.
    It's a dangerous sport and you need bravery to get in that ring.
    For instance, when Haye made his fight against De Mori, to step through those ropes took a warrior heart. Keyboard warriors don't understand what that took. Haye made it look easy but he could have died that night.
    The Hygovic fight against Tom Little also comes to mind.
    Mayweather is a different breed though.
     
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  4. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Pacquiao 2 years younger. Roach claimed that Floyd was old and lost his legs

    Mosley wanted nothing to do with pretty boy when young. Toothache. Also hammered the biggest cheat known to man and called Floyd out, despite being champ

    Canelo Floyd was way smaller and 36, so cancels out him being younger and a little drained. I bet Floyd was more than 14lb lighter on the night

    Oscar was coming off a great win and at the time was much bigger. 34 year old not prime, but 2 years younger than Floyd when he fought Canelo and 4 years younger than Floyd when he fought manny. Floyd was also 30 and much lighter on the night

    Ricky prime weight was 140. Fine, but Floyd was the champion and Aside in a more prestigious division of 147. Despite being taller and longer, likely the same weight on the night. Again Ricky chased the fight and 140 wouldn't save him. Floyd looked sensational at 140

    Floyd isn't perfect and he did like to have things his way as the Aside. Oscar picked everything for the fight with Floyd, as he was the man
     
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  5. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    Even at LW his fight vs a very mediocre opponent Victoriano Sosa was boring like hell.

    Shortly after that young Cotto completely destroyed Sosa in 4 rounds in an exiting but one-sided fight
     
  6. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Floyd above got called out, let's pick holes with some of Mannys wins

    Oscar - despite jumping 2 categories manny fought a very old skeleton who hadn't made that weight in years. Manny might have been even heavier lol

    Hatton - beat Ricky after Floyd and with a new trainer. Devastating knockout but Hatton didn't have the same invincibility

    Cotto - drained to 145 and still coming to terms with the beating from a guy using plaster in his wraps

    Mosley - even older and after Floyd already whipped him

    Margacheato - catchweight and after the brick scandal

    Marquez 3 - could have gone either way, many including me felt Juan deserved the nod

    Marquez 4 - KTFO

    Mayweather - lost a lopsided decision to an even older fighter, who apparently legs had slowed and couldn't crack an egg

    Now I actually really rate manny,but the above shows we can s..t on anybodies record, not just Floyd

    You guys hate Floyd for his persona and his other sh.t, that's fine. But rate the fighters on their skills and their achievements

    You all love Usyk, GGG and loma and those 3 don't compare to Manny or Floyd regarding resume, level of opponents etc

    To cut a long story short, Floyd ab manny are both certified all time greats and belong high on any p4p list,much higher than anyone now. Usyk has a chance to fall in that that category,but 3g, bivol, Loma, beterbiev etc are miles off.
     
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  8. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao/OLDH were both not prime..that's the point. Just because Floyd is older than some of these opponents does not mean he didn't duck the prime version.

    OLDH was 2 W - 2 L in his 4 previous fights prior to Mayweather, and retired a year after Mayweather.
     
  9. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather had called out DeLa Hoya for years before they fought. In those days Oscar fought who he wanted when he wanted. As for Pac, remember the stadium that Arum want d to build before the fight and the cut that wouldn’t heal? Even Roach said they had a hand in delaying the fight. I can understand the hate for Mayweather the man but not the fighter to the extent that you make up stuff to discredit him.
     
  10. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    There's nothing made up, you're just trying to credit a guy who carefully orchestrated his career.

    Are you telling me all these prime fighters all avoided Mayweather?...the guy who was the money machine...
     
  11. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oscar was the money machine before Mayweather. I don’t know how long you have been following boxing but Oscar fought who he wanted when he wanted. The same for Pac. He didn’t need Mayweather until his star got tarnished from being sent into the netherworld by Marquez.
     
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  12. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Loma is more skilled than both Floyd and Pacquiao. Loma is beating guys outweighing him by 20+lbs (Haney)

    Just accept it, Floyd has undoubtedly cherrypicked his entire career.

    Here's something for you, can you name me Floyd's best 3 wins?
     
  13. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He sure did in the first fight. That's why they fought again, Controversy.
     
  14. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  15. The one

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    Canelo, PAC-Man and Chico.
     
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