Inoue is better than Canelo

Thats new to me first time i ever heard you saying it cause all ive hear from you was that Marquez was robbed in every fight where Pac didnt lost. youre changing your tune to fit your agenda and to get likes from coffee boy and resient Gimp @ellerbe[/QUOTE]
Wrong! the fight was a draw. I thought the 3rd fight was a fight where a case could be made that jmm won.

 

I have inoue ranked p4p #2 right now. I realize he's great but his level of comp hasn't been as good as some of the other p4p fighters in the top 10 right now.

 

I doubt it. I never seen @Pimp C nut hug just on eye test. He’s always been a resume guy, which is why he defends Canelo.

 

Yes but on a P4P basis if Canelo fought all of Inoue's opposition he would be heavily favoured to win 90 percent of those fights convincingly minus a few fighters which could be somewhat competitive.

Of course Canelo has struggled more he has fought better opposition that's normally what happens.

 

Exactly. Canelo's struggled in many fights. Inoue's closest fight (Donaire 1) was still no closer than 8-4, plus there was that strange ref intervention which likely prevented an 11th round stoppage.

 

Wrong! the fight was a draw. I thought the 3rd fight was a fight where a case could be made that jmm won.[/QUOTE]
So youre changing your tune of " JMM was robbed" that you had from years to "a case can be made that JMM won" to make it look like you aren't biased to fit your agenda in this thread and get a like from @ellerbe.

Oh and who could forget you constantly saying Pac still had Jeff Horn problem when everyone other than you and the crooks who judged that fight had Horn winning

 

So youre changing your tune of " JMM was robbed" that you had from years to "a case can be made that JMM won" to make it look like you aren't biased to fit your agenda in this thread and get a like from @ellerbe.

Oh and who could forget you constantly saying Pac still had Jeff Horn problem when everyone other than you and the crooks who judged that fight had Horn winning[/QUOTE]
Why do you keep @ing me you weirdo?

 

I didn't have a problem with garcia missing weight and before the ped test coming back dirty i said he would've beaten him if he came in at 140. Go back and search I never said anything about him missing weight. I wanted him to get the belt from Haney but he couldn't because he missed weight. I didn't clown him for it only after he came back dirty did I say something.

 

Frazier had already been beaten convincingly numerous times before the Thrilla but Ali still gets his flowers for that win. Olivares had been convincingly beaten numerous times before he met Arguello but El Flaco still gets his flowers for that win. Kid Gavilan had already been convincingly beat before he met Sugar Ray Robinson but Sugar Ray still gets his flowers. Nonito was in the best form he'd been in years, he'd returned to his natural weight and was on fire during the WBSS, there's even an argument that the more measured, patient Donaire of the WBSS was a better fighter than the more aggressive and reckless Donaire from the early 2010s. Donaire is an ATG at 118 and is certainly one of the biggest punchers at the weight, he showed up to fight in the first Inoue bout but was overcome by the younger man. Just because he'd lost before and wasn't in his prime doesn't detract from the fact he was in excellent form and didn't look at all for a shot fighter. Jermain Taylor beat and old B-Hop twice, who had already been convincingly beaten numerous times but he gets his props, Inoue should too imo. (Yes, the fighters Canelo has fought are better, but not by the time he fought them, and he's lost to Floyd, GGG, Bivol, Lara, Trout, and doesn't really have any clear, dominant wins over the best fighters available to him without extenuating circumstances.)

 

So youre changing your tune of " JMM was robbed" that you had from years to "a case can be made that JMM won" to make it look like you aren't biased to fit your agenda in this thread and get a like from @ellerbe.

Oh and who could forget you constantly saying Pac still had Jeff Horn problem when everyone other than you and the crooks who judged that fight had Horn winning[/QUOTE]
Yes pac still has Jeff Horn problems because he never avenged the loss.

 

Facts you gave Ryan his props before he popped. Coming in overweight and popping is crazy, I think Ryan would have won without cheating but you can’t just ignore what he did.

 

Yes, and Inoue put the record totally straight in the rematch.

Canelo has some really good names on his record, but his best clear win is Jacobs, I'd say. Had he iced Kovalev pre Ward and clearly beaten GGG before he got really old, it would be a different story, but...

Inoue is blowing out everyone there is, but there's no names below 135 so he might very well end up having a resume that doesn't quite match his talent. But that is a generational one, for sure.

 

You said it countless times responding to others accusing Haney of being a weight bully that Garcia cheated on the scales I won't bring back those posts cause you don't give access to others to search your posting history. I wonder why...

I don't like Haney and you can't find a post of me glowing about Garcia beating him and you can search my posting history cause it's there for everyone to see and call me out on any BS I've said in the past.

 

So then the question becomes, if another two losses wouldn't look out of place on his record, how has he got the better one?

 

Slight difference Donaire was 36 in their 1st fight which is pretty old for the lower weightclasses, and a few months shy of 40 years old in their 2nd fight which is ancient for lower weightclasses.

I also wouldn't call Donaire an ATG either and it wasn't just 1 loss for Donaire.

Walters destroyed him, Rigondeaux easily out pointed him, Frampton beat him comfortably as did Magdaleno.

So Donaire prior to Inoue fight had lost 4 times convincingly 3 times to fighters that are good but far from great.

So all in all I would say it's a good win for Inoue but taking into context Donaire was on wrong side of 30, and had already lost 4 times convincingly not an amazing win in my book.