Ryan Garcia tests positive for PED Ostarine

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MidniteProwler, May 1, 2024.


Ban Garcia from boxing?

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes. Weight bully when it fits the narrative and drained when it fits the narrative. If Benavidez loses to Canelo people here will call him drained. Likewise if Loma cut as much as Haney and went down to face Inoue at 122.
     
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  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Smith doesn't but Benavidez does he's one of the bigger names out there. The canelo fight will be a mega fight if it happens.
     
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  3. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    Same here. People here get upset when you call it out though.
     
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  4. tealt

    tealt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't think he got fan boy status like GGG, Loma, Tszyu, Canelo, Pac and ect. Garcia of course.
     
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  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This whole "Haney is a scum because he's a 'weight bully''' started after he beat Loma. The fact is that boxing today have quite a few fighters that are cutting a lot to make weight, but the hate for it here is 99% directed at Haney.
     
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  6. tealt

    tealt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The hate is pretty much everywhere not just this forum. The guy and his father are kind of unlikable. Lots of other boxers don't like this guy. Claiming you are the second coming of Mayweather doesn't help.
     
  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He gets hate specifically for his "weight bullying" without mentioning of his public persona.

    Personally, I think the far majority of today's top boxers come off as absolute idiots. I just wouldn't know where to start there. Inoue and Usyk might be the only big exceptions.

    For me, the thing that I've liked with Haney so far is that he's looked to get good fights made. Undisputed with Kambosso, Loma, Prograis and then he wanted Tank but got Garcia, and that turned out to be worthwhile in the end.

    Tank and some other fighters might well be more talented but they just waste away without meeting anyone worthwhile.
     
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  8. Mark Anthony

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    He popped for 1 BILLIONTH?
     
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    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    He popped for 1 BILLIONTH? This about Devin taking a legitimate ass whooping!
    Devin Haney: "I've Never Been Overmatched Like That ...
    Garcia's attorney, Darin Chavez, has suggested the levels of Ostarine in his client's system are proof that “we are dealing only with a known supplement contaminant in the billionth of a gram range that provided Ryan Garcia with no performance-enhancing benefit whatsoever on fight night,” per an ESPN report from Mike ...50 mins ago
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  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Same happened with Fury on nandrolone and plenty of studies to suggest false positives for this are possible given it's a naturally occurring chemical in the body. They couldn't prove exogenous origin with certainty.

    Typically if you fail for nandrolone you're going to be many times over the limit, I think it's 2ng per ml, if you're roiding you're going to be 20x+ times that limit.
     
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  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just because he had 1 billionth at the time of the test doesn't mean that's all he consumed, that's just the trace amount that the test detected remaining in his system at the time the test was taken. Ostarine has a short half life so even very small trace amounts are suspicious, different drugs will have different limits of detection that will trigger an adverse result, depending on the drug. So while 1 billionth might seem incredibly low it's high enough to be regarded as a failed test. It's easy to throw out numbers and not have any context in terms of what it means. 1 billionth for all we know maybe several times above the limit.
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Interesting point.
     
  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is for you, the rest is for the topic.

    While Haney surely deserve the beating he took, and he is a cheat himself inside and outside of the ring.
    The quantity in most cases doesn't matter. Everyone knows they are using substances to cover PEDS. He most probably didn't manage his cycle properly and couldn't clean all in time or wasn't prepare for the given one.

    If you pop dirty, and unless there is a obvious explanation or they set you up, no matter if you come clean or not, aka using Whyte supplements story or Wild Boar meat, or the Egg stuff, you are 100% on the juice.
    Most of them get away Suing the doping companies, as they are broke asf and can't allow themselves to be sued, and losing tons of money on lawsuits, etc, and they just drop the case.

    But unless his B sample is clean, then Garcia surely was on the sweet Juice. And just because the nandrolone case was dropped, doesn't mean he wasn't injecting the deca.
     
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  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Also we should not believe a stuff coming from Boxers/their promoters mouths, as they are obviously trying to excuse/protect their client and make them look innocent, and they always comes with silly excuses and will say and lie about anything.
    The quantity in that case doesn't matter, as the body does not produce it naturally, as Adam is explaining.

    Yeah people who have zero idea, just read this:
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    Also Doping agency don't report in public about the quantity they have found the athlete, as this is medical report and it's private. So Garcia/everyone can lie with the quantity all they want, and no one should take their word for a given.
     
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  15. Mark Anthony

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    He passed 3 tests before this one, he would get no benefit from taking the drug at that point.
     
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