Ryan Garcia tests positive for PED Ostarine

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Ban Garcia from boxing?

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That's ain't how it works. He passed them, cause he time his cycle around them, and get the stuff out of his system.
    They are using all kind of masking stuffs and timing their cycles. So just because you passed test earlier or later doesn't mean a thing.
    I'm talking in general.
     
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  2. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many times have we heard 'only a fool would get caught these days?'

    The amount detected is often as much about the timing of the test as anything else. The disturbing aspect is that illegal substances - things that are not naturally made and shouldn't be there - are being detected at all.
     
  3. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    They tested him 3 times before, no way he could have timed it the tests were too close together.
     
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  4. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    So the proof is out Haney got whooped clean. No more excuses!
     
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  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yes you can. And essentially you can test both positive and negative in the very same day if there is 2 test in a given day with some hours span.
    Even the amateurs knows how to get PEDS out of their systems and have tricks to do it.
    And always when you get caught the quantity is very little, as they essentially find traces, as you were trying to get it out of your system, but you miscalculate something on the chain, as it's not 1 or 2 thing.
     
  6. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes exactly there’s a cycle of masking agents and he didn’t time it right is what I think happened
     
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  7. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Garcia tested positive not once but twice. Once from his April 19th test and again from his April 20th test.
     
  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exactly. And i'm not hating on Garcia or anything. I think he is a complete idi**** that f**** the potential he have. Not just with this, but with his behavior as a whole and not taking the sport as seriously as he should. It's a pity seeing such a talent goes to a waste.
    Still he clearly cheated and needs to be banned, but it would probably goes under the radar like with most PED users that have popped dirty.
     
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  9. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s always plausible deniability and any bs story as long as they stick with it, eventually they will be either cleared or it will be all forgotten about,
     
  10. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You ever heard of fighters using fake dicks with someone else's urine? A fighter I know is doing that at the moment. Not saying that's what Garcia did but his increase in size seemed unnatural.
     
  11. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Lots of people grasping at straws in this thread it is sad to see.

    Haney got stomped, and people can't cope.
     
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  12. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Please read upon PED’s before you tell ppl how it works. Ostarine is a slow acting SARM that will take a few weeks for someone to see results and it will take about 2 weeks for it to clear. So no, Ostarine is not a drug you “time between tests”, it’s worthless for performance enhancing anyway and you will get zero from it to just take it a few times, Ostarine have no instant effect at all. It’s way better drugs for that.
     
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  13. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep, and so have the testing agencies so nowadays they actually watch your dick when you pee. It’s not as easy as it used to be.
     
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  14. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But what is the half life? Ryan had a lot of tests leading up to the failed test.
     
  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You can say the same thing for Clenbuterol in Canelo case. Not to mention how outdated it is. And many other example that you could star question why he would use exactly this PED and not this. It doesn't work like that.
    But there is a reason why this stuffs are found in his system. And just because something has a normal X life-detected span in your body, doesn't mean you can't change that. A lot of the Pro athletes are working with doctors and known PED related peoples that knows how to cheat the system.

    And 99% of the time IF you ever get caught, you will get caught with very low quantity and for 1 or at worst 2 thing, when in reality they were probably taking a lot more stuffs. It's just that they didn't clear their system out of the ones in time, not that they were just on this stuff.

    And again they have masking agents and stuffs that help certain PEDS/ETC. either don't pop or get out of the system just right in time.

    As far as Ostarine goes, and being a bad performance enhancer i don't know. I haven't taken this stuff so i don't know.

    But at least from the description on it, seems pretty good for athletes:
    "Help build muscle mass and burning fat on the same time". And i don't even need to read any further in the description, as this is HUGE in any given sport.
    It's also doesn't give water retention and help from muscle and joint injuries and recovery from such. If i continue reading, it's says its help with the strength gain of an athlete and help boost his physical performance and so on.

    Now how much of effect it will have on a X athlete is an unknown to anyone. As different stuffs works differently on different people, and neither me or you have any idea with what he exactly have combined.
    Nandrolone is one of the stuff, which he somehow managed to get a pass for, but we know for sure.
    He is most probably injecting test as well.
    Once you pop is clear. Anything else, as date, as quantity it's completely irrelevant, cause they obviously are timing and masking this stuffs, so only they know their stuffs, but it's completely irrelevant.

    It's clear he was on the Sweet Juice. And yeah defending him over this ain't good.
    I'm happy he ended Haney, but defending a drug cheat is just bad, and he should be banned.
     
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