Sergey Kovalev's H2H Ranking

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, May 8, 2024.


  1. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,410
    1,987
    Jul 24, 2005
    I've always thought that prime Kovalev eventually finds and stops Bivol late. Too much firepower supported by a highly underrated delivery system.

    Beterbiev is a more challenging proposition, but I think Kovalev is no worse than even money. That'd be one of those who gets tagged first type of affairs between two explosive punchers.
     
  2. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,422
    11,522
    Jul 1, 2010
    Yikes(?)

    Yarde was bigger than Beterbiev on the night,

    fought him on home turf

    with a biased referee and judges

    threw his mouthpiece out twice to get a rest

    and even had the referee take a time out to adjust his handwraps and trunksm...

    ...and he still got KTFO :lol:

    Yet you think Bivol's very competitive fight against a guy is is the lowest ranked LHW in his own country is sometimes a better victory?

    Is that how you comfort yourself?

    Come on bro :lol:

    Credit to Bivol though. He aged out Beterbiev and may get his victory after all.
    Though it will be tainted because he would be facing a 40 year old who had had multiple knee and shoulder surgeries.
     
    Last edited: May 9, 2024
    FreddieGibbs likes this.
  3. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,988
    19,870
    Nov 27, 2010
    He was fantastic at his peak. No one could touch him.
    Jackson more than dropped hints leading up the second Ward fight.
     
  4. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,988
    19,870
    Nov 27, 2010
    The Alvarez fight was a setup and it happened after kovalev was hitting the bottle hard.
     
  5. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

    1,120
    1,248
    Feb 14, 2024
    I think prime vs prime Kovalev gets knocked out by Beterbiev. Too fragile and can’t do much with him up close. He would have a real chance of sparking Artur first though. There’s also the amateur fight between them which Beterbiev won which spells bad news for Kovalev in the pros. Kovalev insists it was a robbery but I don’t believe him
     
    Reinhardt likes this.
  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,422
    11,522
    Jul 1, 2010
    Exactly

    Why would Russian judges favour a Chechen fighter on Russian territory?
     
  7. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,404
    9,494
    Sep 16, 2017
    I can list you a list of boxers who took more than 3 rounds from the top 5 ATG boxers.
     
    JunlongXiFan likes this.
  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,315
    29,074
    Jan 14, 2022
    No excuses he got knocked out end of Kovalev doesn't have a great resume and he could be a tad fragile.
     
  9. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

    13,425
    7,942
    Feb 14, 2014
    Best win a prime Cleverly who lost against Fonfara. Dropped against Blake Caparello. Looked terrible against Chilemba. Pascal and Agnew were no elite opponents. Couldn't knock out Hopkins who was punched out of the ring against Smith Jr. Canelo knocked him out cold, he started at 140-147 lbs.

    I also agree that he beat Ward but someone from Kovalev's alleged calibre should have retired this fraud after the first fight. I enjoyed watching Kovalev's fights but I don't see him among the big names of this sport.
     
    Reinhardt and Dynamicpuncher like this.
  10. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

    1,120
    1,248
    Feb 14, 2024
    That’s a good point. Also everybody knew Beterbiev was the top dog in the Russian team, and that’s consistent with him beating Kovalev fairly
     
    UniversalPart and Dynamicpuncher like this.
  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,969
    10,408
    Jun 5, 2010
    Ok, I'll leave out Roy (who I personally believe was damn near perfect) I'll give you 10....... I'll also leave out anyone 70's and farther back n just use who operated "mainly" in the 80's-90's forward:

    Virgil
    Michalczewski
    Prince Charles
    Barkley
    Maske
    Chad
    Tarver
    Adamek
    Tiozzo
    Erdei

    If you notice, pay attention to the names I mentioned. All of these men except Erdei are physically larger than Kovalev, or had certain stand out advantages vs him, and are all (aside from Barkley) were fairly elite at their craft or were outright gunslingers (Barkley was this). We can look at Kovalev's entire history now and surmise what would have and ultimately did give him issues. And why this didn't happen until it did. These 10 guys alone would've given him serious, serious problems, there's others from this era I think would as well. .

    My thing is: LHW is one of my favorite divisions so I've deep dived into it's history a little more than most other divisions (other than MW). It's such a deep division, I think some guys that had simply solid careers placed into some different eras would've been long time reigning guys.

    So yeah I ranked Kovalev very highly for a time and for "this" era, no I don't personally think he's a h2h ATG. I think he's competitive in most eras but again, ATG h2h for me no.
     
  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,422
    11,522
    Jul 1, 2010
    Where do you rank Beterbiev?

    I would have had him as a H2H ATG if he managed to come through Bivol
     
  13. Reallymakesmethink

    Reallymakesmethink New Member Full Member

    95
    176
    Jul 23, 2019
    If Ward could bully him at will, so could Beterbiev, although Beterbiev does get hit clean a little too much for my liking.
     
    Reinhardt likes this.
  14. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,969
    10,408
    Jun 5, 2010
    Funny you should ask that, I've actually considered this topic before.

    I actually think Kovalev during his run was better than Beterbiev and there's a number of times I picked Kovalev when that specific potential match was mentioned on here.

    I actually liked Kovalev a lot, Beterbiev as well, I think they're both truly great in this era but I shudder at naming them potential H2H ATG's. Other than Usyk, Crawford, Inoue and a couple other guys I don't think this era has any potential monsters like that.
     
  15. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,988
    19,870
    Nov 27, 2010
    No, the Canelo fight was a setup