Which 1970 s Heavyweight Is Far Too Overrated, IYO?

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  1. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Based on number of wins over good fighters. Tyson and Holmes have more wins over good fighters and therefore a better resume then Frazier.
     
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  2. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Louis resume is overrated tbh I think both Lennox and Holmes have a case for a better resume
     
  3. BCS8

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    LOL really?

    In that case I take Holmes and Marciano as my #1 and #2 :deal:
     
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  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    He was an olympic gold medal winner in 1964.
    He destroyed the absolute best version of Jerry Quarry.
    He destroyed the absolute best version of Jimmy Ellis who had beaten Bonavena, Quarry .
    He defeated the best Bonavena cleanly in their rematch.
    He was the first man to stop George Chuvalo
    He destroyed a prime Bob Foster in a manner far more decisive than many heavyweight champions performed vs lesser light heavyweight champions.
    He defeated Ali.

    You're correct , nothing accomplished ..
     
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  5. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Besides Ali all those wins are overrated. Beating a bunch of small heavyweights and a light heavyweight who didn't have a single win at heavyweight isn't impressive, any modern day heavyweight would have been able to do the same
     
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  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Yeah but the losses to Quarry, and especially the obscure Stallings knock him down a notch for me.
     
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I misread your post. My apologies. I thought you were inferring Shavers was a borderline top ten ATG.
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    You got all that out of a "lol"???? :D
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    Yes he does have those losses. Higher top end lower bottom end.
     
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  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    **** I just fixed it. I'm really off my rocker at this point. :lol:
     
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  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    He was a very inconsistent fighter imo, somewhat like Stallings. His best ever performance was either the Ali bout, or the Norton one.
     
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  12. Niels Probst

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    Most of them. They were all great and intertaining. I think especially Ron Lyle is given more fantasy chances vs present fighters. I think both Klits would murder Lyle.
     
  13. Niels Probst

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    But it is a very good question as the 70's heavies is talked about as semi gods, which they wasn't. They were human.
     
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  14. Niels Probst

    Niels Probst Member banned Full Member

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    I hear
    I hear what you say, but, with all due respect, I think that you mix high level of carisma and marketability with skills - I don't give 1970 Ali a chance in hell against a prime Wlad K., for instance.
     
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  15. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You do that.
     
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