Fury/Usyk weigh in live

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  1. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    You don't understand because you are too emotionally invested. He should has accentuated his advantages by coming in at his normal weight range, not marginalized himself by attempting to beat big ass Tyson Fury in a wrestling match.

    Fury is going to be attached to him like a dog in heat, and there isn't a damn thing Usyk can do about it now, except get dirty and take a point deduction or two.

    Usyk looked kinda soft anyway, so he's added nothing of value.
     
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  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its astonishing how little you understand boxing.
     
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  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    men dont make excuses. you tell it like you see it, and if you saw it wrong, then you say you saw it wrong. its not a hard habit to get used to if youre not insecure about it.
    although, i can see if someone is wrong all the time how the habit might get harder to get used to.
     
  4. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I look forward to replying to this tomorrow
     
  5. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nothing that happens tomorrow is going to prove you right about aj vs Usyk or what you think about the cruiserweight division.
     
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  6. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The cruiserweight division is poor and was not special then

    Aj pre ruiz was a different man and he seems to be gaining back some of his old momentum

    Give me your breakdown on how the fight plays out, I will give mine. And let's see who knows what they are talking about

    Go for it!
     
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  7. Redbeard7

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    "Cruiserweight is historically a bum division with weaker talent pool."

    It was much stronger than Holyfield's cruiserweight division and Holyfield is the only cruiser to have serious success at heavyweight aside from Usyk, thus Usyk's accomplishments are historically rare. If he were to beat Fury once or twice and retire he'd arguably have the best boxing career of all time. I'd rather be Olympic gold medallist, undisputed cruiser and undisputed heavy plus undefeated than undefeated Vegas A-side 130-150 pounder.

    "Tony bellew was up on the cards and landed plenty"

    Bellew landed very little of significance (a fraction of what Mildenberger landed on Ali for instance) and got sparked faster than anyone of any note that Usyk has fought. There was no moral victory for Bellew, despite his laughable coping. In so far as Usyk seemed more beatable to a UK audience this only helped Usyk.

    If Joshua were a better heavyweight than Usyk he wouldn't have lost twice to him with A-side advantage, plus lost to Ruiz, plus not had any wins as good as Usyk's two best at heavyweight. Had Usyk been 39/41 like Povetkin and Wlad rather than 34/35 then Joshua would have very likely beat him too.
     
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  8. AdamT

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    I don't like Aj, but he lost his balls post ruiz, as he is a mental midget

    If Aj was at full confidence, I think he would get usyk out of there

    Anyway matters not, my point was originally a little hyperbole, but usyk is NOT a 16 stone Floyd
    He isn't close to him or a manny pacquiao for that matter

    This forum.makes him out like he's sugar Ray Robinson reincarnated
     
  9. bandeedo

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    thats the kinda stuff i want to read. the how and why of it. real boxing head talk.
     
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  10. bbjc

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    Thought both looked in terrific shape.

    Usyk bigger than most wanted him to be but looks solid with it. Still think that natural size difference is a hard one to make up.

    Fury,s really a genetic freak. With usyk going as big as he can possibly be....hes still 30 lbs lighter with a lot shorter reach and 4 or 5 inches in height difference.

    Usually these types of heavy big guys cant move around much etc. That doesnt really apply to Fury who,s very good at keeping distance and a great natural boxer. Freakish movement for his size etc.

    Usyks as highly skilled as you can get....but its still a bit ask giving away as much as he is in natural advantages.
     
  11. Curlew

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    I think the fight is stopped after Fury opens up his own cut with an uppercut in the 6th.
     
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  12. Drstillhammer

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    The mind games have been fun to Watch. Fury been looking uncertain all week. Usyk seemed rattled For the first time after the weigh in.
     
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  13. MidniteProwler

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    People on socials saying Buffer heard wrong and Usyk was 223 not 233
     
  14. pugilista

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    You will look very silly tomorrow when Usyk beats Fury to a pulp.
     
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  15. pugilista

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    Since I don't speak Polish at all, I used some AI tools to get the gist of what was being said in this interview by Jakub Chycki, a Polish physician employed by Usyk to help him prepare for the Fury fight.

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    The video was shared by @BlackDog who, as I understand, speaks Polish just like @lordlosh (based on your exchange). Can you please confirm that what I managed to decipher and translate from the interview is actually accurate? @Serge, I think a few of your questions regarding Usyk's camp and whether they thought through what they were doing will be answered here, especially since word on social media now is that they made a mistake when announcing Usyk's weight, and it was actually 223, not 233.

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    Reporter: How would you assess Oleksandr Usyk's physical form today compared to previous camps? There seems to be great confidence in you as the Grand Master.

    Chycki: This confidence among those close to Oleksandr developed gradually, initially with curiosity and some distrust. So yes, it was a process. As you said, it’s been three preparatory camps. In my case, it was more of a transition as I was involved in Lapin's preparations while still in Poland. There was a sneak preview of these solutions, discussions with staff, mainly medical doctors, and that’s how this transition happened. Oleksandr's physical condition, which was never in doubt, is at a very high level.His physical fitness and aerobic capacity allow him to be very mobile and dynamic in fights, which is key to his style. Fitness preparation was never a shortcoming; it’s always been at a consistently high level, enabling his unique style. What sets him apart from other heavyweight fighters is his aerobic capacity and fast recovery between rounds. We don’t see major acid-base imbalances or high lactate concentrations because it’s all disposed of efficiently. This forms the basis of his training, which is extensive.

    Reporter: Sorry, we need to take Przemek off for now because we can hear him in the studio, and we’d prefer not to hear his private conversations. Kuba, let’s return to the topic of preparation camps. Are you with us?

    Chycki: Yes, I am.

    Reporter: Let’s get back to the preparation camps. This camp lasted three months. We spoke before this date, which was cancelled. Was it practically sparring from day one?

    Chycki: Yes, sparring partners changed, and then there was a cancellation. So he was back in camp quickly. Essentially, in the last seven months before the fight with Fury, he sparred for about 5.5 or 6 months. The head coach’s regimen includes sparring as an integral part. These sessions are structured progressively with varying round durations. The total sparring time spans several weeks with differing quality and intensity. Oleksandr doesn’t let himself get hurt in sparring. Sparring time is extensive, spanning several weeks, and that was the case here. You asked about Usyk's weaknesses and strengths. His aerobic capacity is well-known, but physically he isn’t the strongest, not even in the cruiserweight category. When compared to fighters like Tomek [Tomasz Adamek], Tomek seemed physically stronger. There wasn’t much room for improvement in strength. Strength progression comes with age, but it’s a different style targeting a fight with Fury. The focus was not on changing his style but maintaining his ability to box at high intensity, delivering many punches and surprising in sequences. Cognitive performance, vision, and tactical consistency were areas of focus.

    Reporter: So it’s mainly about timing, reflexes, and overview.

    Chycki: Yes, exactly. We moved from purely physical training to integrating science. Usyk, being very intelligent, was open to scientific solutions. Usyk trusted science, and this integration may yet lead to progression for such an outstanding athlete. Combining science with sport is necessary, especially in physical culture, medical, and health sciences. Usyk’s team, consisting of doctors, physiotherapists, and physiologists, base their actions on scientific evidence. We often separate theory from practice, but in sport, there are only effective solutions. Usyk’s camp involves experimental methods, controlled conditions, and scientific protocols. Usyk is open to these solutions and very aware of their application.

    Reporter: Did you have to contend with old-school Ukrainian methods, which relied more on repetition than scientific research?

    Chycki: Yes, there were traditional methods, but the staff size and scientific support allowed for subtle modifications and individualised training. We even have mobile labs for blood tests, sleep analysis, and cognitive performance monitoring. Usyk averages 7 hours and 23 minutes of sleep, with 40% being deep restorative sleep. Naps are also incorporated during high-intensity training periods.