Whose punch resistance is better between...

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  1. BoxingViewer

    BoxingViewer Active Member Full Member

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    Has the name Dubois escaped your memory? It was a legit knockout that has aged like a fine wine. Usyk has also been hurt numerous times in his career and lost to a welterweight in Shawn Porter. Has Cunningham ever lost to a welterweight before?
     
  2. pugilista

    pugilista Member banned Full Member

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    Especially since Cunningham was never in a situation where he 'literally dodged bullets.' He was in the navy, not the army, and I heard it was pretty rare for sailors to be shot at with handguns.
     
  3. BoxingViewer

    BoxingViewer Active Member Full Member

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    Correct, but they didn't stop Cunningham.
     
  4. pugilista

    pugilista Member banned Full Member

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    We already know you are trolling, no need to sell the idea even harder. We get it, mate. You are bored and want Usyk to lose tonight, so you open silly threads.
     
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    I never knew exact reason, cheers I just assumed. He had a good career he was successful. He’s not an ATG or hall of famer but it’s not fair to compare him to guys who are and dismiss his achievements because of it.
     
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  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    So if Cunningham wasn´t the same after the Fury fight, then how come no one stopped him?
     
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  7. I Dont Play With Dolls

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    A low blow, that was ruled a low blow, isn't a legit knocked down.... Your delusional and scrapping the barrel if that's the only thing you got to say: that a guy who was dropped 20 times, 7 of those times at cruiserweight , has better punch resistance then a guy who was never dropped but low blowed by a big puncher.
     
  8. ChiefGego

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    Agreed with the military thing, they're both made of flesh and bone, one man wrote his name down to do some push-ups and crawl under barbed wire for a government, he is not now superhuman.
     
  9. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    The only reason Fury beat Cunningham was because of all the fouling, mugging, holding, clinching, grabbing, mauling techniques he employed after his Chin got checked and he was on the canvas. Fury should have been DQed in that fight.
     
  10. BoxingViewer

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    He also arguably lost to or drew with a past his best Dereck Chisora, who let's not forget suffered his first loss to Tyson Fury back in 2011.
     
  11. I Dont Play With Dolls

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    So you are clearly trolling now... Chisora had a good 2 rounds and got picked apart the entire fight.
     
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  12. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Agreed! I think he had a spectacular run after the YPH losses.

    After the losses, Cunningham moved up to face Jason Gavern, who at the time a was a solid American/local level talent. It was a good test to see how Cunningham would fair against bigger men. Also on the same card were Bryant Jennings and Thomas Adamek.
    The win over Gavern set up a rematch with Adamek. And If I am not mistaken, this kick started Main Event´s deal with NBC. Main Event, which was at the time run by Kathy Duva used the NBC deal to launch and restart quite a few careers. Jennings, Cunningham, Kovalev, Mansour, Curtis Stevens, Sullivan Barrera and Thabiso Mchunu were among some of the more prominent names who found great success thanks to this.

    Kathy Duva did an excellent job back then.
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The posters who've already responded to this incredibly dunderheaded post, do a good job summing up what I would've said, so there's no reason to belabor their points. Although I'll throw in, not only was he the same fighter, he was almost exactly the same fighter. Who went on to rack up several solid wins and two robberies losses along the way. He clearly defeated Glazkov and Tarver, and no one KO'd him the rest of his career. See.. there's a reason for that, because none of his opponents were allowed to get away with the illegal tactics, of literally forearming a guy's face, turning it around into a punch, and punching him right on the chin. Holding and hitting is illegal, Fury should have been DQ'd for that little move.

    Low blows are anything below the belt, you do understand that right? There's a reason why boxers wear their shorts high, it's to protect everything below the navel, because since I'm assuming you're a male, you know as well as every other male, that being punched along the beltline hurts like hell, because that entire area is filled with very sensitive nerves. THose shots are illegal for a reason, because every fighter if allowed, would come right out, target that area, and score a quick KO. So this grasping at straws Usyk was KO'd narrative, couldn't be more pathetic. Usyk has never been hurt with anything but an illegal blow. Again, peddling bull****. He lost to Porter when he was 19 years old, and he was a scrawny middleweight, who'd been an amateur for 9 months, whereas Porter had been an amateur for almost 5 years. Do better research.
     
  14. BoxingViewer

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    No, Fury proved he had dog in him during that fight in the sense he could adapt when being outboxed. It was like watching a throwback fighter. I'll give you a good example of someone who should have been "DQed" and that was Usyk's countryman Wladimir Klitschko when he fought in Russia against Povetkin. Wladimir disgraced himself that night it wasn't a fight it was one bigger man deploying wrestling tactics against a smaller man who was trying to fight. Ask Kevin Vladimirovich Johnson if Tyson Fury can box or not imo one of Fury's most underrated wins. Vitali had nightmares when he fought Kevin did you see how marked up his face was at the end of the fight? Fury didn't even have a scratch on him.
     
  15. pugilista

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    Lol.
     
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