Oleksandr Usyk ATG ranking

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  1. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have to give it a pause and revisit it when the dust settles. They’re probably going to fight again too. It’s very easy to go over the moon now and overrate the significance of this win historically. Regardless he’s surely very high for me, top 15 without question and maybe higher than that.
     
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    Nah. Quality of opponents is far lower.
     
  3. Drew101

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    Top 25 or so if he never wins another fight. Around the same level as Michael Spinks and Gene Tunney on my personal all time list.
     
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    At least we can agree on that
     
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    He’s up there with other GOAT heavyweights in history I would put him favourite against all but two maybe three Ali, Lewis and Holyfield however it wouldn’t surprise me if he found a way to beat them
     
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    If he continues to win in this way within 2 or 3 years he could get the GOAT.

    He has all. Complete arsenal of blows, highest IQ and footwork, impregnable defence.
     
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    Michael Spinks? The hell are you saying? Hes much much better!
     
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  8. Drew101

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    Much better. :lol:

    Spinks was a top 3 LH and cleaned out a deeper division at that weight than Usyk cleaned out at cruiser. Plus, Holmes is a better heavyweight win than Fury and AJ.
     
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    The hell are you saying again?

    Usyk wouldnt allow Tyson to destroy him within one round.
     
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  10. vast

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    Usyk is a first ballot HOFer and an All Time Great. He compares evenly with all the greats.
     
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  11. Drew101

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    Spinks was at the end of his career and cashed out against someone who probably wrecks the version of Usyk we saw tonight. If all you've watched of Spinks is that fight, then you shouldn't comment on his worth as an all time great. Spinks at his best was an absolute monster. I'm paying Usyk a compliment by placing him in his company.
     
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    Usyk outboxed and destroyed two giants in the HWS. He would destroy Spinks too.
     
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    Briedis did better than Fury or Joshua against a better version of Usyk. Hunter did better than aj. Usyk was a heavyweight in the ring even then, over 200lb. I think this size stuff is overblown. Always has been
     
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  14. Drew101

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    The version of Spinks that kinda bamboozled Holmes the first time around? Who knows? Fact is, Holmes is still a much better scalp at heavyweight than the guys who got splattered by Ngannou and Andy Ruiz respectively. And Spinks was operating well above his best weight when he beat that fighter.
     
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    First boxer to become undisputed at the 2 highest weight classes.