Has Usky just demolished the myth of the modern superheavyweight?

The difference is one can move and box very well the other was just big do none of you watch film or something

 

Has anyone ever rejected the notion that Holmes and Ali could have success in the modern era? Holy already proved he could have, if you count the 90's as modern.

 

Being a talented bigger man was never a guarantee to beating a talented smaller man. But it should be noted that it doesn’t mean that anyone could go out there and beat a big undefeated heavyweight champion. I think there are many factors that come in to play when this happens. For one thing, Usyk is an exceptional talent and at 6’3”, 223 lbs isn’t a “ small “ man when sized up to many heavy’s of decades past. For another, even though Fury is two years younger than Usyk I think he’s diminished faster. He wasted a lot of time being inactive since beating Klitschko and wasn’t a glutton for hard core training and discipline as Usyk is.

 

Lewis would have his way with Fury and Usyk

 

Are you joking? I can't tell. If not:

The difference is that Bill Tate sucks. Why didn't you put anymore thought into this? First Carnera's existence means that Rocky beats Fury, now Bill Tate's existence means Langford beats Fury.

I'm 5'7 and I beat a 6'3 man in a random boxing match. Usyk is 6'3. I should be able to beat Usyk, what's so different???

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The 90s has to be considered "modern". I am not yet ready to consider myself as having been around watching boxing in 'Ye Olden Times'.

 

Why did you sneak Dempsey in there lol?

 

I think Fury got too comfortable boxing him because it was easy and he was winning, and then he didn’t have it in him to bully Usyk after he got knocked down.

Basically it was the same thing that cost him the win in the first Wilder fight.

It was still razor close though.

 

Also, another factor to consider; at this point in time some of Fury's physical attributes are absolute garbage. Both his chin and his punching power are garbage. Those are like, the only two attributes that contribute to weigh classes even existing in the first place lol. How hard you hit and how hard you can get hit.

Having a chin so bad that you nearly got knocked out by a pure boxer, that's 40lbs lighter than you, that hasn't KO'd anyone in 6 years, makes half of the size thing moot.

and being such a weak puncher that the man 40lbs lighter than you is so unbothered that they walk with their hands down whilst in range, and take multiple flush body shots, makes that moot.

So basically at this point it's not even overcoming a "size" disadvantage as much as it is purely reach advantage. He outboxed a chinny feather fisted man with a huge reach advantage. Not what people really think off when they think of overcoming a size disadvantage. It'd be like Beterbiev or Bivol beating Lawrence Okolie. 2/3rds of the dangers inherent to fighting above your weight class get removed in those circumstances.

Granted, I'm just talking about this specific fight. Not like Usyk didn't beat, Chisora, AJ and Dubois.

 

Stings, doesn't it ?

 

It certainly felt to me like some complacency crept in during the mid-stage of the bout.

And I agree with the fight being close.

 

Fury had a good spell between 4-6 but it was never easy Usyk was backing him up all night and was putting pressure on him consistently. Usyk landed alot of body shots in the early rounds and landed some significant straight lefts that got Fury's attention.

Fury didn't have it in him to press Usyk after the knockdown because he was in serious danger of being stopped, had Fury got in trouble again like he was in the 9th round he could've been stopped. Infact if the referee had not administered a standing 8 count for Fury in the 9th round Fury could've been stopped right there and then.

 

Standing 8 count?

That was a legit KD, from where I was sitting.

 

Usky and Futch.

 

There was zero doubt that Fury was winning heading into the 8th and he was still obviously up going into the 9th.