Has Usky just demolished the myth of the modern superheavyweight?

I think Fury is at his best when bulls inside and does dirty infighting. He’s too strong and wears guys out. He’s too lazy and good from the outside to do it consistently though and has been clipped many times as a result.

 

I had it 4-4 after 8 rounds but the 7th round was a big round in the fight i thought Fury had the momentum between rounds 4-6 and it appeared he might start taking control of the fight. But Usyk dug deep in the 7th round and edged that round for me, and then after that the momentum started to shift back in Usyk's favour until he took over completely after the big 9th round.

 

At this point in time Fury isn't feather fisted. He's not a banger but he sure ain't feather either.

 

There was a period when it was easy. Fury beat him up for a couple of rounds and it looked like the writing might be on the wall. It's an enormous credit to Usyk that he found a way back in.

 

Agreed. I think that type of fight keeps Fury alert and thinking, while harnessing his height and weight advantage - whereas he suffers lapses in concentration when being the out-boxer.

 

Like i said i don't think it was easy i think that's too strong of a word for me, yes Fury had two clear rounds in which he appeared to be taking control but Usyk certainly had his say in those early rounds although he did have a bad spell for 2 rounds between 5-6.

 

What he did to Willard and Firpo who both hit harder than Fury?

 

No, but he demolished the myth of Tyson "no man born of his mother can beat me" Fury. I warned people it was only a matter of time before Fury took an L. Usyk would probably be a champion at some point in any era.

As far as smaller heavies vs bigger ones go, skilled super heavies are still extremely difficult for smaller fighters to beat. Let's not act like Usyk's win was a walk in the park. His win says nothing about how 5'10-6'0 guys under 200 lbs do either. Many of those guys would be the size of Beterbiev and Bivol today and would be their rivals.

 

Your actual comment live was -

"Usyk could be stopped in the 2nd half of the fight Fury well on top now."

They were spot on too. Hindsight changes nothing. All the emotion based Usyk backers went incredibly quiet around this point. Huge credit to Usyk turning it around. He's got some fight in him. If he didn't the General forum may have had to have been shut down for a day or so as I've never seen so many people so emotionally invested....what a meltdown it would have been. There would have been a cyber riot if Fury got the decision

It wasn't so much a love Usyk thing as a hate Fury deal. They both put on a great fan and us fans are all the more lucky for it. Great day today.

 

I think it should be pointed out that even had Usyk not moved to heavyweight Joshua and Fury would not be regarded as greats by many due to their extremely thin resumes. If we imagine Fury retires after Ngannou there would be people questioning his greatness due to him not fighting Parker, Joshua, Bakole, Povetkin, etc, etc.

 

You gave Fury the 8th?

 

I turned $250 into almost $700. How does this sting?

 

He beat an old, soaked cokehead. A talented old, soaked cokehead, but time and partying have caught up to Tyson. Oleksandr has kept his eye on the prize.

And the desperation of people trying to paint a guy Usyk's size as small is showing. Usyk is a lot closer to the perfect size heavy than Fury. Fury has always been an outlier on how well he moved, how fast he was for his size. But he's burned his best years, both in the ring and out of the ring.

 

Wrong. A pressure fighter is what Usyk has always fed off. If you go through his record it's basically a who's who of all the top aggressive hard-hitting fighters. What Usyk wants to do is be the matador to a bull and to dissect an opponent by using their own momentum against them. Fury was difficult for him because Fury is a good outboxer who moves backwards under pressure negating Usyk's best asset, his angles and side to side footwork. Also, Fury is bloody massive.