GOAT == Usyk

If you took it as a personal insult that wasn't my intention. I'll rephrase:

Could you please use more paragraphs?

 

That's insanity. Fury losing for the first time in his career against Usyk being ranked behind a guy who lost twice to him and got TKOd by Ruiz Jr? Beating Wallin and Ngannou isn't enough to propel AJ to 2nd, and frankly he's lucky to be 3rd.

 

Oh, isn't it old "performance only matters in a 1-1 situation"?

 

and Franklin.

 

Yes. He can't live down the fact that Joshua had an easy night with his boy Parker.

Tbf, though, I probably don't have much problems with anyone having Fury as the current nr 2 either. It depends on what time horizon one looks at. When it comes to current rankings I mostly emphasise the last few years.

To get a clear picture of the order of Joshua and Fury on a career basis we likely need a showdown between them. Seeing the counters Fury was caught with last night, I'm more confident than ever on Joshua winning that. But we'll hopefully see.

 

Nahh, AJ aint even in top 5

 

As someone already noticed, why should Fury be ahead of AJ in current HW rankings where we take into consideration recent performances?
He arguably lost 2 of hist last 2 fights - last night against Usyk and few months ago against a debutant, debutant who was next sent to shadow realm by Joshua.
Ranking AJ ahead of Fury right now does not seem crazy from my point of view.

Also I guess now Joshua's 2 losses against Usyk no longer look that bad huh?

 

AJ is a bum never beat a reigning champion for a belt still.

 

No it means that Fury is still #2 until #3 beats #2 or #1. In AJs case he hasn't done either. Not a hard concept to grasp even for you.

 

I have no issues with that. Would like to see a rematch though, or failing that AJ fighting an actual challenge.

But hey if his last two fights against one top ten opponent and a 0-1 novice is worthy opposition you're free to be happy with that.

 

That's another made up principle by you. That would mean that the nr 2 couldn't become nr 1 without beating the nr 1. And that is fully possible, of course. Most actually had Usyk taking Fury's nr 1 spot even before beating him, me among them. Probably same with whomever was behind Joshua (Fury imo) when he lost to Ruiz.

There are multiple times in history when a contender takes the place of the contender in front after that contender loses to a third fighter. Folley after Machen lost to Ingo springs immediately to mind.

 

Man you are crazy to think he can beat Usyk, I dont even think he will get that fight

 

Jeezo, your agenda has been as transparent as glass all through this build up!

This history-making fight had NOTHING to do with AJ, let's celebrate Usyk (and Fury) and the fight we just saw.

And for the record, in my book AJ is still #3 until he faces Fury or Usyk again.

For me I felt Fury and AJ did similarly with Usyk, but there was one BIG difference to me - Fury in rounds 4-6 (and half of 7) really looked like he was bossing Usyk for spells, and that is something AJ didn't do in 24 rounds.

So no, AJ is not CLEARLY #2

Usyk is clearly #1 - and that is all we can say