GOAT == Usyk

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lordlosh, May 18, 2024.

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Who won after rewatching the fight

  1. Usyk

    93.3%
  2. Fury

    6.7%
  1. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    If anything, it was Fury dominating Usyk in the middle rounds. I was rooting for Usyk but Fury gave that fight away.
     
  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You watched a different fight, aren't you?
    Winning 2 rounds is not dominating the middle rounds.
     
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This explain the obvious corruption. This guy + Mauricio needs to be banished from Boxing forever.
    Beat them with lashes and stone first though.

    Destroying the sport, cause of their greed and corruption.

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  4. From.Russia

    From.Russia Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury gave up first 2 rounds, just running around and grimasing like a ****ing ******, I am glad he lost and almost got kayod.
     
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  5. bowerboy

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    Agreed. Also the shot to the eye really rattled Fury (nasty shot when you watch it back).
     
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  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    He's a super professional athlete who has lived the life throughout his career. He's closer to his prime than Fury for obvious reasons despite his age. You can see that via their most recent performances alone. I'd argue Fury's been looking on a massive downward trajectory since the third Wilder fight.

    Uysk looked a bit vulnerable against DDD but still won fairly comfortably whilst Fury had people saying he dropped a decision to an old debuting MMA fighter who then got obliterated in his next boxing match.
     
  7. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    Also John Fury is dikhead did you all hear him celebrate when Tyson headbutted usyk and opened the cut. He was screaming in joy in his dumb mind he thought it was karma for him getting cut in press conference…
     
  8. AdamT

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    Guy can't enjoy the victory,because he knows that a fat, cocaine addicted Fury was way more competitive than Aj HAHA

    I have said that Aj would beat both next year, as they are over the hill,but that was too kind to Aj. He has zero boxing IQ

    Usyk has both their numbers,but Fury proved the tougher match
     
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  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I'm following Usyk since his first days in Boxing. Amateur days, WSB semi-pro days, CW days, HW days.

    He is a shadow of the fighter he was. But just comparing to AJ 1 and 2, he is miles behind that type of shape.
    Even in just physical appearance in AJ 1 he was a bit bigger weight wise, but a lot ripped. And since the war started and he lost the 10kg. when he was in Ukraine and couldn't train and eat properly, he is getting softer and softer, which is an indicator of losing quality muscle mass and gaining some fat replacement(if i can say it like that).
    I'm going to talk just his HW days. And AJ 1 specifically which he was 34 years old and already past it.
    Still he was quite fast and mobile, and that side to side movement and constant body movement and throwing so many punches was incredible.

    In AJ 2 i though he was a bit sloppy in throwing punches, and some of the pop and was gone, but he still move well and throw a lot.

    Now in the Dubois fight he threw significantly less punches, and his movement was heavily reduced. You can excuse it to some degree with the rain that was coming to the ring and the clear lowblow, 20+.

    And now Fury fight where he threw just 450 punches or so, and his movement was a lot worst. The upper body movement was way worst. His reflexes and reaction time has clearly being slowed down quite a bit. And he also doesn't counter every attack, as he previously was doing.

    He also was bouncing on his feet a lot more, which is something i notice in Wladimir Klitschko late career, which was a clear sign of decline in his work.
    In AJ 1 he throw 530 punches, but they were all quality. In 2 he threw 712, which was great numbers.

    And currently he is throwing a lot less, moving a lot less, and his speed is not the same.
    It's time to hang them up Champ.
     
  10. zeratul

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    Is this your figure of speech or did he actually lose 10kg in early 2022? I don't remember him saying that..
     
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    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This ain't main, and this was confirmed by Usyk and Krassyk themselves. He lost exactly 10kg at the start of the conflict, as he wasn't able to train and to eat properly. He stayed in Ukraine for quite some time, and literally has to hide in a basement.
    There was picture as well, when he clearly was lost quite some size.
     
  12. zeratul

    zeratul Active Member Full Member

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    Got it, thanks.
    I do agree he's on the decline and, especially for HW, his style does not age well. Which makes his win over Fury even more impressive.
     
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  13. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    I disagree. Usyk just fully utilises everything he's still got left 100%, so, better than Fury does with what he's actually got left . He ( Usyk) has done so his entire career. Fury hasn't.

    This is all without adding in the elephant in the room that Usyk is simply the better fighter.... Imo.

    Both fighters on Saturday were not prime. Neither are shot, both are shopworn and in some decline.
     
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  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Usyk is way worst than Fury in terms of decline. As being a giant is for life. Speed, reflexes, reaction time, footwork, cardio/energy, the first thing to go. And Usyk is on the decline for quite some time. After AJ 2 his decline accelerated big time.
    After 35 you just start declining really fast. The attributes i mention above especially.

    From Usyk throwing 700+ punches against AJ to just 400+ against Fury is obvious he is not even 70% of what he was against AJ.
    Not even a comparison.

    And that was actually the best Fury i have ever seen. I'm 100% sure he was on the sweet Juice, most likely Juiced to the grill, but he still get beat by almost shot Usyk.
     
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  15. ConfusedGuy

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    Can you not let Usyk have his win without somehow trying to use it to big up AJ?

    Grown men like you confuse me. Glazing for another grown man who doesn't know that you exist? It's weird.
     
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