Why did the referee not stop the fight when Fury was out on his feet?

Most refs only implement that rule if the fighter is legit tangled in the ropes and its preventing them hitting the floor, ref was legit unsure what to do hence he got in Usyks way a couple times.

 

You basically argue "let's not stop fights at all because the hurt fighter might turn out to be able to win rounds later". That's not how boxing works. Referees don't have crystal balls. How do you know that in boxing history there weren't a thousand stoppages that would fall in your "the idea he couldn't continue is nonsense" category? We'll never know because those fights, by your logic, were all stopped too early.

Fury didn't go down because the ropes held him up. Without the ropes, he would have gone down around four other times. And the controversy is this: Fury was unable to defend himself. His hands were down, and Usyk was hunting him with headshots. That's not an eight-count situation. That's a stoppage situation. It's not my opinion, it's what the rules say.

Watch the fight again. Fury is defenceless, with eyes wide open; he can see Usyk coming for him, and he is terrified. But he is finished; he can't even raise his hands to defend himself. Usyk cocks back his left hand to deliver the last blow, which would have taken Fury's head clean off, and that's when the referee stepped in, stopping Usyk in his tracks. Once again, this is not an eight-count situation. I was absolutely sure when the referee stepped in that he would wave it off.

Never in my decades of watching boxing have I seen a situation like that, ever. A fighter unable to defend himself is about to get finished; the referee steps in to stop the last devastating blow and save the defenceless fighter from further punishment—but he gives an eight-count instead of waving the fight off.

Name me any such situations from boxing history. I'll take any examples where this exact situation happened and it ended with an eight-count instead of the referee stopping the fight. Hint: I guarantee you won't find any.

 

I think not stepping in was valid for Usyk to get the KO. I also think him giving Fury the 8 count was valid because it solidified the win for Usyk with the close scorecards. Fury could have went down multiple times and ended up staying up because of the ropes.

 

I never said those fights were stopped too soon. I said this fight the referee was proven to have made the correct call.

He gave Fury a count, Fury beat the count and continued the fight. I mean I don't get the outcry.

Had the ref stopped the fight, I'm sure he'd have had those fans saying he made the right call and those saying he didn't.

One thing you're right on is that I won't find any because I'm not trawling the anals of boxing history when this fight has enough proof of the situation.

Usyk smacked your hero around the ring, he crashed into the turnbuckle, the referee started a count, your hero beat the count, the fight continued.

 

Very easy to answer. Because Tyson has never been knocked out before but he has been knocked down for many times. He always got up after he kissed the canvas.

 

Since when is Fury my hero?

I think you are deliberately not addressing the main issue here. Watch these:

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Fury was defenseless for a good 20+ seconds, his hands were down, and was eating punches left and right and was all over the place, stumbling around the ring, hanging on to every side of the ropes. If you decide to interfere at that point, that is a stoppage. If you wanted to give Fury 8 count, which is super rarely done, and there is no 8 count in the British Boxing Rules, and this fight was under their rules, you are doing it the first time when Fury hit the ropes, and that was like 10-15+ seconds earlier. And then Usyk would have more than enough time to either KO Fury or score another KD.

What referee clearly do was trying to help Fury, and not score a KD or not wave the fight off. He did everything to help Fury.

As far as the recovery goes, we can do the same for every fighter then. Fury once again gets a 20 second count, in a round where he should have been stopped.
His hands were done, he was bloody all over the place, and was completely defenseless.

This is a clear stoppage, and today everyone in the media is come to their senses and claims the fight should have been stopped.
Every single media is hot on this.

Trying to defend a clear robbery of a KO is a bad look, really bad look.

 

I don't need to watch those, I watched the fight live.

 

There's nothing to defend here. The referee made a call to allow the contest to continue, it continued and Fury wasn't knocked out.

The whole point of a tko is to prevent a brutal ko, like Griffiths v Paret.

Some fans have just gotten soft imo. The only time not stopping is a bad call is when the fighter ends up seriously hurt. This hasn't happened here so the call isn't controversial.

Like I said, nothing to defend.

 

I don't think it's corruption as much as poor refing. He was in the wrong position more than once (trying to get close to see how Fury was but getting Usyks way)- that said - he was having to move a lot as Fury barrelled around the ring which can't be easy. He let Fury take plenty of shots would he have left another fighter?

Usyk I suppose isn't meant to be a puncher and Fury has shown tremendous recovery before so maybe that all plays a part.

If Usyk had got the stoppage there could have been no complaints. Simelar to Khan V Maidana.

That said Usyk won on the cards so I think talk of corruption is a bit much. If it was corrupt they would have robbed him.

 

You are keep repeating your narrative, because you have no argument. Both me and pugilista already debunked this with facts and videos, and you just keep repeating yourself saying nothing new.

The ref should stopp a fight, where you are completely defenseless and can't keep your hands up, which Fury was for a good 20+ seconds.
You are not starting a 20 second standing count after that. You are stopping the fight or not interfere at all. He did neither, instead he save Fury.

You also somehow completely ignore the fact that the referee was messing with Usyk work and was preventing him for finishing Usyk early, as he essentially block Usyk at one point, and Usyk has to go around. He also put his hands on Usyk at one point, which was pathetic.

The referee helped Fury, this is a fact, he saved him. This was a stolen KO from Usyk record, and everyone who is unbiased can see this.
Bellew, Haye, Chisora, and plenty of others said the fight should have been stopped and they robbed Usyk.

 

He wasn't KOed, cause he was saved by the ref, and was given a long count.
Wilder wouldn't have been KOed by Fury in the third fight, if Referee gave him 20+ seconds count, and interfere with Fury works.
Hell, Dubois wouldn't have been KOed by Usyk, if refs decide to give him 20 seconds count, but he wasn't given that, right?
Dubois may have recovered and carry on, and i can make a case for everyone in the history of this sport.

For both Lewis loses, for Mike Tyson, for Anthony Joshua against Ruiz, Klitschko against Anthony Joshua, etc, etc.

Why was Klitschko stopped against AJ, when he was on the rope, and not given a standing 8 count? And Klitschko was actually defending himself and was blocking most of AJ punches.
Go on expert answer this ?

 

The referee did nothing wrong and we saw very little of him in the fight with is what matters.

If he jumped in to start a count earlier he would have saved Fury taking damage

He let usyk level off on him in till the ropes were holding him up...at which point the round had ended. He picked up the official ringside count at 4 then saw if fury was fit to continue which he was barely. Round then ended.

No controversy really.

 

Of course you would say that since he saved Fury from a KO defeat. When even fellow Brit fighters say it was biased refereeing, it's pretty much indefensible. Even Fury's pal, Chisora, called the ref out, mate. Why can't you show humility and say that, yes, Fury was practically KOd, and Usyk is the better fighter, and you were wrong all these years? That would be the adult thing to do. Nowhere to hide now, mate. What you are doing now is still just what a child would do with a keyboard and internet access.

 

You do need to watch those since you might have watched the fight but you definitely didn't pay close attention to what was going on.