GOAT == Usyk

FrankinDallas · May 21, 2024

lordlosh said: ↑

Go watch the fight again with no commentary, as they 100% influence what viewers see.

Fury didn't win Round 4, neither Round 7. You give them this round, for what exactly? Showboating?

On what boxing criteria did he win the rounds?
This ain't nagging i legit want to know, on what criteria did Fury won the 4 and 7 rounds.
As i rewatched the Rounds, and here it what happens in them:

- Usyk going straight after Fury and landed right hook/jab. on Fury from the get going.
- Fury than landed a body shot + a lowblow.
- Another body shot for Fury.
Then Fury throws around 10 punches with every single one of them was blocked 100% by Usyk. Not a single one landed.
- Usyk lands backhand to Fury body
- Usyk lands huge left Hook on Fury head, that Fury needs to shake it off after he moved from the ropes/corner. That shot clearly affected him.
- Usyk lands jab to the body
- Usyk lands another overhand left to Fury's head, this time it was partially
- Usyk lands jab to the body
- Usyk lands another left counter to Fury head
- Fury than lands left hand uppercut. It wasn't full landed shot though
- Usyk lands left to the body not very powerful one
- Fury headbutted Usyk, which open Usyk cut over his right eye, which later the imbecile ref declared it was from phantom punch
- Fury tries uppercut but missing. Yet commentators scream that he landed huge uppercut, but he didn't. The punch landed on Usyk arm.
- Fury catch Usyk with right hook, but that was arm punch with no power behind it
- Usyk lands to the body
- Usyk put a barrage 3-4 punches onto Fury body, landing consecutive, that the biased commentators decide to ignore once again
- Usyk lands another barrage of shots, 2-3 to the body, and this time going to the head as well Right hook and Left Straight landed clearly though Fury's Guard
- Usyk lands 1-2 to the body
- Usyk lands another Left to the body
- Usyk lands another Left to the body
- Fury lands left jab
- Fury miss uppercut and Usyk miss with an overhand left

Also Usyk was on the front foot for the entire round, clearly put Fury under pressure and was clearly the effective agressor.
He was the one landing the clean shots, also unload 2x. time a barrage of punches when Fury was on to the rope.

So based on what should anyone score the 4th. round for Fury?

Let me rewatch the 7th round, and describe the action:

- Usyk lands jab to the body
- Usyk land jab to the head
- Fury lands body shot
- Fury lands jab
- Fury clinch, but didn't want anything at all
- Fury lands clearly illegal kidney left body shot, while trying to clinch again
- Usyk lands left in the clinch, not powerful at all
- Usyk lands left to the body
- Usyk lands jab to the head
- Usyk land the best punch of the round, huge counter left to Fury's head
- Fury lands a jab
- Usyk lands left to the body
- Usyk land jab to the body
- Usyk lands left to the body
- Fury lands right uppercut to the head
- Usyk land left to the head
- Usyk lands left to the head
- Fury land arm left hook to the head
- Usyk lands huge left to the body
- Usyk lands left to the head again
- Usyk lands Right hook to the head
- Usyk lands uppercut to the head
- Usyk lands jab to the face

Also have in mind Usyk was on the front foot the whole round. Put Fury onto the ropes and landed the cleaner shots. Also the most impactful and more power shots.

How on earth can you make a case for Fury in this 2 rounds?

The reality is the commentators completely ignored every single Usyk punch to the body, and most of his head shots. And when Fury landed they were screaming. Also a lot of time Fury was missing and they still screaming. Or when Usyk was blocking with his gloves.

No way in hell Fury won Round 4 or 7.
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As I've always said, I only have impressions after a fight, not literal scorecards. I do intend on rewatching the fight after I get over jet lag.
Maybe tomorrow. I'll keep the commentary on mute.

lordlosh · May 21, 2024

FrankinDallas said: ↑

As I've always said, I only have impressions after a fight, not literal scorecards. I do intend on rewatching the fight after I get over jet lag.
Maybe tomorrow. I'll keep the commentary on mute.
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To be fair Sky Sports commentators were somehow fine. Their viewers as well. They had it 116-111 for Usyk.
But Dazn with that bald head Barry, so so f**** biased. That guy is so much in Fury's ar*** it's unreal. How the f**** they allow such a biased commentators is beyond me.

To be fair have never seen anything like this in MMA for example. And i'm not talking just about this match. They are always cheering for the bigger name.
Same story in Frank Sanchez - Kabayel fight. Absolutely pathetic.

FrankinDallas · May 21, 2024

lordlosh said: ↑

To be fair Sky Sports commentators were somehow fine. Their viewers as well. They had it 116-111 for Usyk.
But Dazn with that bald head Barry, so so f**** biased. That guy is so much in Fury's ar*** it's unreal. How the f**** they allow such a biased commentators is beyond me.

To be fair have never seen anything like this in MMA for example. And i'm not talking just about this match. They are always cheering for the bigger name.
Same story in Frank Sanchez - Kabayel fight. Absolutely pathetic.
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Wait...they were cheering for Sanchez? He looked totally disinterested in throwing punches. Terrible.

Ronin Pham · May 21, 2024

lordlosh said: ↑

You are mad. IBF is going to strip Uayk literally next week.
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All the more reason for Usyk to retire and leave this boxing bs.

ConfusedGuy · May 21, 2024

AJ fanatics been out in full force since Saturday.

It's a shame we can't just be talking about Usyks incredible win and achievements. Instead some dick rider has to bring AJ into the equation in every damn post.

tragedy · May 21, 2024

lordlosh said: ↑

I think the AI scoring and stats, should 100% replace the terrible Compubox we have now.
What do you guys thing?
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Absolutely. Best punch counter certainly.

lordlosh · May 21, 2024

The fight is free on youtube, given by Turki Alalshikh:

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senpai · May 21, 2024

10 rounds ? WTF ? Why some of you are ok with that ?

themaster458 · May 21, 2024

lordlosh said: ↑

Go watch the fight again with no commentary, as they 100% influence what viewers see.

Fury didn't win Round 4, neither Round 7. You give them this round, for what exactly? Showboating?

On what boxing criteria did he win the rounds?
This ain't nagging i legit want to know, on what criteria did Fury won the 4 and 7 rounds.
As i rewatched the Rounds, and here it what happens in them:

- Usyk going straight after Fury and landed right hook/jab. on Fury from the get going.
- Fury than landed a body shot + a lowblow.
- Another body shot for Fury.
Then Fury throws around 10 punches with every single one of them was blocked 100% by Usyk. Not a single one landed.
- Usyk lands backhand to Fury body
- Usyk lands huge left Hook on Fury head, that Fury needs to shake it off after he moved from the ropes/corner. That shot clearly affected him.
- Usyk lands jab to the body
- Usyk lands another overhand left to Fury's head, this time it was partially
- Usyk lands jab to the body
- Usyk lands another left counter to Fury head
- Fury than lands left hand uppercut. It wasn't full landed shot though
- Usyk lands left to the body not very powerful one
- Fury headbutted Usyk, which open Usyk cut over his right eye, which later the imbecile ref declared it was from phantom punch
- Fury tries uppercut but missing. Yet commentators scream that he landed huge uppercut, but he didn't. The punch landed on Usyk arm.
- Fury catch Usyk with right hook, but that was arm punch with no power behind it
- Usyk lands to the body
- Usyk put a barrage 3-4 punches onto Fury body, landing consecutive, that the biased commentators decide to ignore once again
- Usyk lands another barrage of shots, 2-3 to the body, and this time going to the head as well Right hook and Left Straight landed clearly though Fury's Guard
- Usyk lands 1-2 to the body
- Usyk lands another Left to the body
- Usyk lands another Left to the body
- Fury lands left jab
- Fury miss uppercut and Usyk miss with an overhand left

Also Usyk was on the front foot for the entire round, clearly put Fury under pressure and was clearly the effective agressor.
He was the one landing the clean shots, also unload 2x. time a barrage of punches when Fury was on to the rope.

So based on what should anyone score the 4th. round for Fury?

Let me rewatch the 7th round, and describe the action:

- Usyk lands jab to the body
- Usyk land jab to the head
- Fury lands body shot
- Fury lands jab
- Fury clinch, but didn't want anything at all
- Fury lands clearly illegal kidney left body shot, while trying to clinch again
- Usyk lands left in the clinch, not powerful at all
- Usyk lands left to the body
- Usyk lands jab to the head
- Usyk land the best punch of the round, huge counter left to Fury's head
- Fury lands a jab
- Usyk lands left to the body
- Usyk land jab to the body
- Usyk lands left to the body
- Fury lands right uppercut to the head
- Usyk land left to the head
- Usyk lands left to the head
- Fury land arm left hook to the head
- Usyk lands huge left to the body
- Usyk lands left to the head again
- Usyk lands Right hook to the head
- Usyk lands uppercut to the head
- Usyk lands jab to the face

Also have in mind Usyk was on the front foot the whole round. Put Fury onto the ropes and landed the cleaner shots. Also the most impactful and more power shots.

How on earth can you make a case for Fury in this 2 rounds?

The reality is the commentators completely ignored every single Usyk punch to the body, and most of his head shots. And when Fury landed they were screaming. Also a lot of time Fury was missing and they still screaming. Or when Usyk was blocking with his gloves.

No way in hell Fury won Round 4 or 7.
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How do you score 12?

Braindamage · May 21, 2024

lordlosh said: ↑

This is such a funny post. What is your problem exactly? This was the first Undisputed Fight in 25 years, do you really expect us to not talk about it, and the clear controversy once again with the judges?
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The truth hurts. Take it easy on the Fury fanboys. They're not use to this treatment. LOL

Mordechai · May 21, 2024

Quite easy to score:
1,2 usyk
3,4,5,6, Fury
7,8,9,10,11,12 usyk
116-111 usyk

GlaukosTheHammer · May 21, 2024

116-111, fair fight,
Right man won, clear in hindsight,
Judges' views, our plight.

Sugar 88 · May 21, 2024

Arch Stanton said: ↑

Hmmm, well, it is debatable and I do see your point . But maximising what you have left at any given stage of a fighters career is more a personal discipline rather than a physical prime issue for me. However, we could split hairs all day long on this debating mental strength/disapline as a 'prime' consideration, certainly in this particular instance.
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Fury not living the healthiest life is only his own fault but it's definitely taken him further away from his physical prime than Uysk is IMO. So it's not an excuse but it is a bit of an explanation.

Big Red · May 21, 2024

It was a close fight Fury was putting a pretty good beating on Usyk in the middle rounds and Usyk went to the hospital. It was a great fight and win for Usyk!

Braindamage · May 21, 2024

Sugar 88 said: ↑

That wasn't prime Fury. I say that as someone who couldn't care less he lost.
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Prime Fury would have gotten whooped by the 37 YO Usyk as well.

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