Explain to me how Joshua is the #2 HW in the World

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Slyk, Mar 11, 2024.


  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Still prime Usyk - muhahahhaha. You are a next level troll that haven't watch or follow Usyk at all if you think this is even close to 70% of prime Usyk. This is more likely less than 50% of prime Usyk. Hell this is 60-70% of what AJ gets in the first fight.
    Get the f**** out of here. Your hate for AJ is next level. Your boy was beaten soundly and saved by the ref.
    AJ is going to smack your boy around the ring.
    AJ beats them both now with ease, as Usyk is a shadow of himself.
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Did you really said that AJ still doesn't have a win anyone decent?
    Rating Fury over AJ is mental.
     
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  3. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

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    Ali lost his first fight to Frazier (and several times was in big trouble). In the second fight Ali clinched his way to victory in a fight that some actually think Frazier won. Foreman obliterated Frazier in two rounds knocking him down multiple times.

    Ali lost his first fight to Norton and barely won the second. Foreman TKOed Norton in two rounds practically tearing his head off.

    So it stands to reason that when Foreman fought Ali he was going to easily beat him. Some thought he would literally kill him.

    In boxing 1+1 does not always equal 2.
     
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    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Skipping over the fact that AJ struggled against a 41 year old Wlad with ring rust there... 2 years out of the ring has a huge impact. Fury absolutely school Wlad in his backyard.

    Fury, while he did lose, fought a much more competitive fight against Usyk than AJ did. I've never seen Usyk had to dig that deep before.

    Yeah he looked rubbish against Wallin and Ngannou. I won't disagree there. But if AJ and Fury were to ever fight Fury would comprehensively pick AJ apart.
     
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  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Here it is finally shows his true colors and who you support.

    Remind us again why was Klitschko inactive for the AJ fight? Oh yeah Fury ducked the rematch and waste 1+ year of Klitschko career.
    Unmotivated Klitschko barely lost to Fury. Schooling ? Only in your mind. This was 2 or 3 round difference fight. And scorecards representee it. Fury has done nothing in that fight. Worst HW title fight prolly in the history.

    Usyk was around 80-90% of his prime in AJ 1 and 2. And he is prolly 40-50% now.
    Usyk was 34 and 35 against AJ 1 and 2. And 37.5 years old against Fury. And Fury ducked the fight for 2 years to age Usyk out.

    You can cry all you want, but AI Scoring and stats shows this wasn't close or competitive fight at all.
    Usyk dominated, KTFO Fury in the 9th round and only referee saved him.

    If Fury though he had any chance against AJ, he would have fought him already, as this is the biggest fight in Boxing. Instead he is getting KOed inside 3-4 rounds.
     
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  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look at my previous post I was talking about lately, since Usyk he's been taking soft touches, the moment he beats a live body I'll rank AJ over Fury.
     
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  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And Fury hasn't, h?
    The only reason he fought Ngannou is because he beats Fury.
    Wallin was top 10 in every single ranking, top 5 mostly, and he was Rank Number 2 by the IBF.
    He was going to fight Whyte, but he was caught with PEDS, and Helenius was a late replacement. Franklin is a solid fighter that in my book beat Whyte quite clearly, and also has a great chin.

    He is going to fight in September against Hrgovic - Dubois winner. He is also open for Fury fight, but it's Fury who doesn't want it.
    Unless Fury fight AJ, he is never going to be second best of this era.
     
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  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've been over this with Slyk.

    All I can say is let's wait and see if and when they actually fight.

    The question will be answered then.
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed about the Ngannou fight.
    Wallin isn't even top 10 he was overrated after having 2 good rounds vs Fury.
    Helenius was never that good, couldn't even beat gate keeper Chisora in his prime and the version AJ fought was over the hill.
    Franklin is a gate keeper at best and if were honest Whyte isn't much better than a gate keeper and since Povetkin has looked past his best, so again people shouldn't overrate Franklin off giving Whyte a tough fight when Whyte now and then isn't the force he once was.

    I hope he does fight Hrgovic in Sept but he's twice passed on the chances to fight Hrgovic, he could of fought him instead of Ngannou and said he would fight this June but instead is letting Hrgovic/Dubois happen in it's place while he does nothing. If it does happen and he wins which I expect him too he will jump over Fury for me.

    Right now who is number 2 in this era is up for debate, could be either Fury or Joshua, they really need to fight once Fury has finished with Usyk. That's a fight I would look forward too. I favour Fury but give Joshua a very good chance of upsetting things, which I hope happens as a fan of Joshua I would love to see him beat Fury.
     
  11. Lecowas

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    You're all over the place picking Joshua's opponent apart, but you have failed to highlight fury's opponent and tell us how they are all ATGs. The likes of sefferi, Wallin, ngannou, chisora, Whyte and the list goes on and on. C'mon, accept the L and the fact that fury did not live up to the hype of being the greatest ever he was called.

    Though I wanted usyk to win, twas only cos I knew fury would hold the belts hostage and get the likes of you to defend him. Good riddance. Hopefully he can take on real challenges now that he lost his "0"
     
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  12. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk stands alone.
    Joshua's strength surpasses,
    Fury's might dethroned.

    1. Usyk
    2. Joshua
    3. Fury

    Joshua's stiffness fades away,
    Usyk reigns supreme.
    Fury's claim, a dream.
     
  13. Ted Stickles

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    Because it’s a weak era and beating an mma fighter somehow upped his ranking in corrupt sanctioning bodies.
     
  14. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imo Joshua doesn't go up in rank by beating people below him. If he wants rank 2 he has to actually earn it by beating Fury. The only reason I have AJ at #3 is because he beat Parker back in the day, but if they were to fight again I'd expect Parker to win.
     
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  15. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Fury is clearly above AJ, as is Parker currently. AJ is 4th.
     
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