How Anthony Joshua can become the greatest heavyweight of this era

AJ fans are deluded

Usyk fought everyone everywhere every time & is undisputed in 2 weight classes

AJ is a stain on a pair of underpants compared to Usyk. Got toppled over by Burger King on his first away soil fight. Mentally poor. No stamina. No balls or heart. No boxing ability. All he does is cry about how he's had the "hard road" what hard road? Gifted a gold medal coddled to death then bought your first belt off Charlie Martini? What a joke.

 

JT lost to Pavlik twice though who BHop beat, and Usyk is undefeated. If Usyk retires undefeated I don't think you could have the clearly inferior AJ ranked above him, despite having more depth wins at heavyweight.

 

He’s no spring chicken. He came in late n HW from an ATG cruiser run and beat all the top guys to become undisputed in short order. He’s old now and has to retire as his attributes already start to diminish. He did all he needed to do to bow out on top. Can’t knock him for that.

 

Sure, since he beat the clear cut 2 best guys in the division. I think you would be surprised to look at a lot of atg heavyweight's resumes, theres maybe 7 notable wins and a whole lot of filler. I'm not sure Bowe or Vitali's 3rd best win is any better than Dubois.

 

There's a bit of nuance here. His Olympic gold is in HW. His run in the WBS was at heavyweight, where he beat Joyce. He also beat Michael Hunter at CW who turned out to be a very good HW. Usyk's short run at HW is a million times more impressive than Wilder's 50 bumfights.

@OP - Anthony Joshua cannot become the best HW of this era, because the best HW of this era is clearly Usyk.

 

Bowe beat plenty of former world champions like Tubbs, Thomas, Dokes.

And Vitali has the likes of Peter, Sanders, Johnson, Adamek.

Dubois hasn't even beaten a top 10 Heavyweight yet and was gifted his shot vs Usyk, I'm not saying it's Usyk's fault that the fight happened clearly it was Fury's fault.

But let's be honest Dubois did not deserve a title shot vs Usyk.

 

He never beat any of the top dogs of this era, so nah. He never even tried to face them.

Fury dethroned Vlad. Fury took out top dog Wilder. Usyk took out Joshua and Fury.

What is Joshua's legacy? Fighting named guys who were 40? Otto Wallin? Francis Ngannou?

He got stopped and quit against Andy Ruiz Jr.

The eras go Klitschko -> Fury -> Usyk. Joshua isn't in the discussion.

 

If he beat Fury, rematches and beats Usyk, beats Wilder, Zhang, Dubois, Anderson and Hrgovic then maybe we can talk.

 

He can definitely be greater than Usyk at heavy despite losing to him. Holyfield lost the series to Bowe but is still universally rated much higher because he surpassed Bowes career in most other aspects. Joshua will certainly have a harder time at doing what Holy did since Holyfield did still manage to get a win over Bowe while Joshua never beat Usyk, but it's definitely not impossible.

He's been a career heavyweight which already puts him at an advantage because his heavyweight resume has more depth than Usyk's, who's only had 7 fights at the weight so far. If he can beat Fury within the next year and then get wins over the winners of Hrgovic-Dubois and Wilder-Zhang then I think he'd have a good case for being ranked higher at Heavy all time.

 

Not true he was willing to fight Wilder and they were scheduled to fight if both won their fights vs Wallin, Parker. Joshua done his part but Wilder failed getting humiliated by Parker hence no fight.

Fury offered Joshua a fight after Joshua had gone 12 hard rounds with Usyk in which Joshua accepted, and then Fury doing what he does normally started giving Joshua the run around changing dates and venues every other day on social media. Before giving him an impossible deadline less than 8 weeks to get ready after he's just fought 12 rounds vs Usyk, hence Fury never truly had any intention of fighting Joshua that's why he started acting up after Joshua called his bluff.

It's funny that you mention Wallin, Ngannou, two fights who Fury arguably could've lost and yet you're using those same names to discredit Joshua even though he destroyed them easily where as Fury went life and death with them ? your logic makes 0 sense.

What's Fury's legacy ? beating an old Wladimir just like Joshua did ? beating Whyte just like Joshua did ? beating Wilder who Parker beat ? what else is there ?

Nah.

 

The eras are Klitschko, Fury, and now Usyk, how is that at all debatable?

 

Because i don't believe Fury ever proved he was the best of the era to make such a claim his resume is paper thin and he's only beat 3 ranked opponents.

 

AJ had 2 chances to beat Usyk and failed. I struggle to see any way that AJ can surpass Usyk's greatness.