Tyson Furys resume is better than Anthony Joshuas

Agree.

Disagree.

 

Neither has anything to do with anything you're making a pointless assumption based on Helenius lasting 60 seconds vs Wilder to make a case for him do you know how silly that sounds ?

Povetkin was shot Helenius was shot but Povetkin has credentials and is a noteworthy name hence he's still a better name than most of Wilder's opposition because Wilder has such a poor resume that's the point i'm trying to make.

And just for the record Helenius was caught using a banned substance vs Joshua.

 

There was absolutely no need for a third fight against Wilder and both of them have looked like hot garbage since.

 

Helenius has been knocked out in 3 out his last 7 fights.

 

He was a shot to pieces never was. Drugs test aside Joshua was still fighting incredibly tentatively at that point when had he opened up it could have looked like the Ngannou fight.

 

If he had an official win versus Parker then he'd have a better resume than Wilder too.

 

Maybe. Maybe not. Povetkin is the better fighter to have on your resume though.

 

There's a reason Whyte ran from a deserved rematch. The amount of leeway UK fighters get on home soil is discouraging.

 

I don't agree with you on who's better. But more important for my argument - beating some one three times is NOT as impressive as beating three opponents once. If you have some ones number you don't get credit the second and third time. That's why Povetkin, Parker, Pulev, Ruiz and Takam is a better resume than Wilder, Wilder, Wilder, Chisora, Chisora, Chisora.

 

No

 

Pulev, 283lb Ruiz, and Takam are terrible. Fury could fight all of those guys southpaw and win.

Parker is a good win, and Povetkin was 39 years old and at the end of it.

Defeating Wilder, especially the way it was done, is significantly more impressive. Dominating undefeated Chisora who went on to fight on even terms with Parker is very good too.

 

Parker beating Wilder destroys your argument. And Breazeale is not as good as Chisora.
Who did Ortiz ever beat?

We are talking strictly wins so losses don't factor in.