Do you now agree that Usyk is a boxing great? How great is he, and how is he great?

Hes an ATG for beating fighters in their own backyard, being one of the most skillful fighters who's Heavyweight sized, beating highly ranked bigger fighters who had significant size over him, and finally for being undisputed in two weightclass.

I don't think hes on the same level as Robinson, Greb, etc resume wise because they beat so many greats and hall of famers it's actually insane. And whilst Usyk has a very good resume and deserves credit for beating bigger fighters who are classed as good-very good, hes still not actually ever beaten anyone who I would consider great.

So hes more like a top 30 P4P fighter of all time for me rather than top 10 like some people are claiming.

 

Usyk can only beat what’s available to him and he has beat the other two stand out fighters of his time taking all there belts and titles and currently stands as the Undisputed Heavyweight of his era and he also did the same at Cruiserweight. Usyk is not yet retired so he is still an open book with possibly more to come .

 

Top 3 CW and I don't see how anyone would dispute that........................trying to place him at HW is a little more difficult

 

I think he's the best to ever have laced them up.

Unified the most competitive cruiserweight division in history.

Toppled the two world class super heavyweight fighters.

All this as the away fighter.

 

- amateur world champion
- olympic gold medalist
- cleaned out IMO the strongest cruiserweight division ever (consisting of fighters the size of past era's HW's), and nobody can tell me otherwise (like the OP said, he didn't let people be great)
- cleaned out a strong heavyweight division in 5 fights with relative ease, and nobody can tell me otherwise too (Fury and Joshua are both elite heavyweights, you can't just say they're not so great because they lost too... Usyk)
- beat 7 world champions pretty much in their prime in their backyard or at least not at home
- never been down
- never fouls, hits after the break etc, used no dirty tricks, apparently has never used steroids too

Are you kidding me?
How is he not Uber elite?
That's ridiculous. Ali level, or better, and if you can't see it you're a delusional old-head, sorry.

Edit: I don't believe that such a thing as the best ever even exists so I don't rate him as that. He's the highest tier.

 

First man to 100% complete boxing from amateur as a kid to olympics to semi-pro to Cruiserweight and now HW.

The only thing left to even do is just the side quest of defending the belts if he wants to.
All done undefeated and on away turf in every fight

 

Overrated hypejob. Until he moves down to bridgerweight and challenges the undisputed WBC champion Lawrence Okolie, only then should he be considered an all time great. Smh.

 

You made my day

 

Unfortunately Usyk is happily married and isn’t in need of hugs lol

 

He's boxing jesus

& to lose to Fury in the rematch would not count against him one bit.

 

Not uber elite, but a true pfp great AND great at heavy, just lower down the list

 

Uber elite.

From the modern era, only Lewis and Vitali beat him 5+ times/10 imo. Wlad would get iced with 2-3 shots every time he tries the jab and grab.

And maybe prime 80s Tyson with the look in his eyes.

 

Lol at goat and uber elite
I put him in the 3rd criteria which is amazing and with great company

I can allow some to think he is among the top 10, though I still find that ludicrous

But greater than the following?

SRR
Greb
Armstrong
Ali
Duran
Ray Leonard
Edward Charles
Langford
Joe Louis
Lennox lewis
Floyd mayweather
Manny pacquiao
Etc
Etc

F..k.off lol

Edit

The 2 saying not great is equally as ******ed as thinking he is the actual goat