Predict the winners of the Matchroom 5 vs Queensberry 5 on Saturday

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Pick the five winners

Poll closed Jun 2, 2024.
  1. Deontay Wilder

    32.4%
  2. Zhilei Zhang

    68.6%
  3. Filip Hrgovic

    75.5%
  4. Daniel Dubois

    23.5%
  5. Austin Williams

    23.5%
  6. Hamzah Sheeraz

    58.8%
  7. Nick Ball

    48.0%
  8. Raymond Ford

    33.3%
  9. Willy Hutchinson

    29.4%
  10. Craig Richards

    50.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder KO, think Zhang is too stationary

    Hrgovic TKO, think he's too tough for Dubois

    Sheeraz decision, think Williams struggles with his length

    Ford TKO, just think he's a better sharper fighter

    Richards decision, don't really care to be honest. Choosing Richards because I'm more familiar with him and he's only lost to top guys in the last 5 or so years
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The Ring Magazine Fight Picks Big Ban vs The Dosser

    Here’s how the experts see it:

    THE RING

    ANSON WAINWRIGHT: ZHANG TKO 5

    “This is fascinating because this fight has so many questions. We have no clue what to expect from these two big-punching fighters. I could see any outcome in this fight. Wilder looked awful last time out and maybe he is a shot fighter. Zhang had moments against Joseph Parker but also struggled. It seems if you can get through the early going against Zhang you can outhustle him in the second half of the fight but that’s not Wilder’s style. Both have the power to hurt the other and it’s probably who strikes first. I don’t think this fight goes into the second half with both knowing one mistake could likely spell the end. I think Zhang’s southpaw stance and extra weight could be key. I’ll go without too much conviction for Zhang to catch and stop Wilder in five rounds.”

    LEE GROVES: ZHANG KO 7

    “Talk about a great pairing of nicknames — “The Bronze Bomber” versus “Big Bang” Zhang. This is a fight that demands a knockout ending, and according to the oddsmakers who have Zhang a slight favorite, one has the right to assume they’re most swayed by the difference in punch resistance that favors Zhang as well as Wilder’s dismal performance against common conqueror Joseph Parker, a man Zhang floored twice before losing on points. If Zhang lands his lethal left cross on Wilder’s chin, especially early, there will be no opportunity for Wilder to exploit Zhang’s biggest weakness, stamina. That’s what happened in the Joe Joyce rematch and the pick is that Zhang’s “Big Bang” will be enough to take out the “Bronze Bomber.”

    DIEGO MORILLA: WILDER UD

    “It’s been a while since we’ve seen Wilder perform to our best expectations, but the basics are still there. Zhang may be surging and enjoying a good moment, but in terms of speed and even power he is noticeably a notch below Wilder. Zhang has a puncher’s chance, but if the best Wilder shows up on fight night, Zhang will be in trouble. My money is on the latter.”

    MARTIN MULCAHY: WILDER TKO 5

    “I have never been a big backer of Deontay Wilder… nor Zhilei Zhang. When evaluating both, I feel Zhang is the perfect opponent for Wilder to get his grove back and some of his reputation as a finisher. Wilder has been beaten by good boxers who understand the use of space, and has problem with boxers that are quick fisted or faster with their feet. Zhang is none of those, but I do rate his toughness and ability to deliver shots at close range. I don’t think Zhang can crowd Wilder or cut off the ring, thus leaving that punching space Wilder wants to unfurl his long armed bombs. Unless Wilder is completely shot, I see him avoiding Zhang’s charges and countering at will, eventually catching Zhang so often his corner or referee is forced to step in before the halfway point has been reached. Going with a fifth round stoppage, probably by the referee jumping in as a barrage of punches leaves Zhang helpless in the corner.”

    MICHAEL MONTERO: ZHANG TKO

    “Both men suffered losses to Joseph Parker in their last fight. However, Wilder was dominated, while Zhang kept it close. As long as he has stayed in shape over the last few months, I like Zhang to beat up and stop Wilder. This feels like a cash out for the American. Gimme ‘Big Bang’ by late stoppage.”

    RON BORGES: WILDER TKO

    Not so long ago I would have picked Wilder by KO and not thought twice about. But Wilder’s recent performances have me wondering if, like many KO guys, they fade quickly. Wilder looks to be in that fading point of his career. Having said that Zhang is a step down from Tyson Fury and Joseph Parker. Then again, Parker dominated Wilder while Zhang lost to him by majority decision in a close fight. So who wins? Zhang could easily beat Wilder if the latter continues to fade but this is also a crossroads fight for Wilder. He has to understand, one would think, that a fourth loss in his last five fights means an end to him as a legitimate contender and big payday money maker. So I’ll go with the more desperate fighter in Wilder and pick him by TKO. But I’m not doing it with a lot of conviction, to be honest.”
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    BOXING INSIDERS

    DUKE MCKENZIE (FORMER THREE-DIVISION TITLEHOLDER/TV ANALYST): ZHANG TKO 10

    “I won’t state the obvious and I would be disappointed if either tried to change tactics in this mouth-watering battle. Zhang’s southpaw style will cause Wilder problems. Neither of these two have great stamina which only spices things up even more. They will have to stand and trade blows, Wilder’s only hope of getting the TKO has to come early. If Zhang can get past the early rounds it’s his fight, bigger, stronger and has a better ring IQ than Wilder. Zhang wins inside 10-rounds by TKO and sends Wilder into retirement.”

    TOM GRAY (FORMER MANAGING EDITOR FOR THE RING): WILDER TKO 4

    “Zhang might be the perfect opponent for Wilder at this point. The Chinese colossus is 41 years old, he fights at a slow pace and he’s very heavy footed. Wilder’s ability to position himself to punch is massively underrated, and Zhang, while he judges distance well, can’t match him in this area. The former champ needs to watch what’s coming back at him because Zhang is a murderous hitter himself. I’ve just got a hunch that Wilder is going to land with something supersonic and end this fight in an instant.”

    STEVE KIM (THE 3 KNOCKDOWN RULE): ZHANG TKO

    “This is a fight between two heavyweights that can really bang. Unlike Joseph Parker, Zhang will be much easier to find for Wilder. There are clear pathways for his right hand to land versus the huge Chinese southpaw. But just as he did against Fury, he is facing a huge weight deficit, and if he gets pushed back, his right hand is that much less effective. If Zhang come in a bit lighter (and therefore a bit more mobile than he was in his last fight) I expect him to put Wilder on the back foot and eventually stop Wilder in the seventh or eighth round. Wilder is still somewhat dangerous, but I wonder if he has his legs underneath him.”

    JOE ROTONDA (MATCHMAKER, MAIN EVENTS): ZHANG TKO

    “I like this fight a lot, two giant heavyweights in a situation where a loss could be the end any hopes of getting to the top of the division. I think Wilder has to be in desperation mode here. He’s only won a single bout since 2019 and he’ll be 39-years-old in just a couple of months. He has had an incredible career, but I don’t like what I saw in his last bout with Joseph Parker. The legs just were not present and neither was any killer instinct on Deontay’s part. Although Zhang lost his previous bout as well, also to Joseph Parker, I think even at 41-years of age he has a lot of fight left in him. I think he overwhelms the Bronze Bomber en route to a stoppage win halfway through the bout.”

    ROBERT DIAZ (MATCHMAKER): WILDER KO 9

    “Interesting fight, anytime you have two big boys who can punch, expect a barnburner, this will not be the exception. It is a must win for both, while I am hearing Wilder may fight again on August 3 against Jared Anderson he needs to stay focused as Zhang can derail that. I see a slow beginning as they will both be cautious of each other’s power in the early rounds. Deontay will use his reach to keep Zhang outside and Zhang will use his size and weight to muscle his way inside. In the fourth or fifth round, the first big bomb lands and I expect a knockdown. I can see Wilder getting caught and going down. He gets up and in Wilder fashion begins to land his bombs. The fight is on, Zhang has shown some stamina issues in the past and begins to tire in the seventh. By the ninth round both are exhausted but the famous Bomb Squad lands Wilder KO 9!”

    RICH MAROTTA (COMMENTATOR): ZHANG KO 8

    “Here’s another intriguing fight in a whole series of 2024 interesting matchups. Two big old guys, two big punchers. This could go a number of ways, and I’m hoping its not a boring, plodding affair. My feeling is that it will go to the other side of the coin. It should provide tense, edge-of-the-seat stuff because of the thudding power each possesses. I would not be at all surprised to see each man knocked down in this one. Wilder looked like he was seriously deteriorating in the match against Parker, who boxed smartly. However, Parker has a whole different skillset than Zhang, so I don’t see the Chinese star being able to use the same strategy. In trying to visualize, I see both landing power shots, but Zhang better able to absorb, and eventually knocking out Wilder somewhere around the eighth round.”

    JOLENE MIZZONE (MANAGER): ZHANG UD

    “Let me start off by saying, you know when it is a good fight when you go back and forth with your pick. My first pick was Wilder because of his power and how he did well with Ortiz who is a southpaw, but then I go back to Zhang who has been in with punchers and did well (i.e. Hrgovic and Joyce). They both fought the same guy in Parker, and both didn’t look great, but I am going to go with Zhang simple because he had Parker down twice in the fight with him. This is why you have to love heavyweight fighting because one punch can change it all. They both have power so I think someone will go down.”

    ALEX STEEDMAN (COMMENTATOR): ZHANG KO

    “The big question here is which version of Zhang and Wilder is going to show up? Because both men, in different ways, were notably poor last time. Wilder looked like he’d been toking on pacifiers for months while Zhang was simply too heavy and incapable of sustaining attacks. But at both their best and their worst, this pair could still come together to create a memorable firefight. Wilder only needs one moment and Zhang needs to get close to be effective so he will be in danger. But we simply can’t trust Wilder’s approach or mindset right now and Zhang is one of the more technical opponents he’s been in with. Zhang, if motivated, can carve out the openings for a spectacular win.”

    CAMILLE ESTEPHAN (PROMOTER, EYE OF THE TIGER): ZHANG KO

    “I believe this one is of the don’t-blink material. Both guys have devastating power, so needless to say the odds of going the distance are very slim. Although Wilder does have the faster hands, overall I feel Zhang is in a better place physically at the moment and is more able to handle a shot than Wilder is. I favour Zhang to win by knockout.”

    STEVE FARHOOD (TV ANALYST): WILDER PTS

    “Ouch! Wilder has won once since 2019! Zhang is over 40 and can be outboxed. My guess is that if Wilder fights a controlled fight, he’ll win on points. I just can’t see him fighting as poorly as he did in his loss to Parker.”

    AGIT KABAYEL (HEAVYWEIGHT CONTENDER): ZHANG KO

    “I think it will be a tough fight because both are big punchers. The open question for me is how Deontay deals with a big southpaw like Zhang? For some reason my gut feeling tells me Zhang will win by KO and end the career of Deontay Wilder.”

    MATTHEW MACKLIN (FORMER WORLD TITLE CHALLENGER/ COMMENTATOR): ZHANG KO

    “A really tough one to call because it’s really hard to tell where Wilder is at. Prior to the Joseph Parker fight I’d have said Wilder as Zhang ain’t that hard to find and Wilder’s power is devastating. Now, obviously ring rust would have been a factor for Wilder’s poor showing but also Joseph Parker’s movement and self-belief were also factors. On top of that, listening to Wilder in interviews, he seemed like a guy that was on a spiritual journey trying to find himself. Now whilst that might make him a better person, it probably strips him of that vicious streak you need as a fighter. In summary, from what I can gather from the outside looking in, I don’t think Wilder really wants to box anymore and is most likely cashing out, so I go with Zhang by KO, but obviously Wilder only needs one clean punch so who knows?”

    WAYNE MCCULLOUGH (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/ TRAINER): WILDER KO 3

    “The winner of the upcoming fight between Deontay Wilder and Zhilei Zhang should set them up to get back into the mix of the heavyweight division. Ironically, they are both coming off loses to Joseph Parker. They can both bang hard but they lack basic boxing skills. I think Zhang will give Wilder problems early on with his southpaw right jabs and straight lefts to the head. He could catch Wilder with the left and drop him. But I think Wilder will be smart enough to use his jab following it up by a straight right to Zhang’s head, a punch that works well against southpaws, dropping him to get the knockout win inside three rounds.”

    RUDY HERNANDEZ: (TRAINER): WILDER TKO

    “Strong punchers, according to Parker who fought them both. Wilder is training knowing this is his last chance at getting a title shot or he’ll have to retire. I see this fight at a slow pace, round after round. Both touching, when the explosion happens and Wilder right hand lands flush and hurts Zhang, he may not get dropped but the ref steps in and waves the fight off somewhere between six and eight rounds.”

    Final Tally: Zhang 12-8

    https://www.ringtv.com/672617-fight-picks-deontay-wilder-vs-zhilei-zhang/
     
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  4. chino123

    chino123 New Member Full Member

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    ford claimed to have problems making weight in the kholmatov fight....was talking about moving up until hearn convinced him to take the ball fight.

    if he doesnt have problems making the weight i think he stops ball somewhere in the 7-12 range.
     
  5. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Matches my picks bro.
     
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  6. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    Wilder ko
    Hrgovic ud
    Sheeraz ud
    Ford ko
    Richards ud
     
  7. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Zhang KO
    Hrgovic TKO
    Sheeraz KO
    Ball TKO
    Richards SD
     
  8. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Zhang by KO - Wilder was never any good.
    Dubois by KO - been active against good opposition while Hgrovic hasn’t been willing to fight anyone of note.
    Ford by wide UD
    Richard’s by close UD
    Sheeraz by KO
     
  9. Koli55

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    Wilder KO - He still got it
    Hrgovic TKO - Dubois will take a knee after a few rabbit punches
    Williams KO - This is 50/50
    Ford UD - Ball doesn't have the power he would need for a guy his size
    Richards KO - This will be one-sided

    Matchroom 5-0
     
  10. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Zhang KO/TKO
    Hrgovic KO/TKO
    Sheeraz PTS (wide)
    Richards PTS (close)
    Ball KO/TKO
     
  11. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dubois is huge and probably stronger than ever before, Hrgovic will have to be careful, in this fight Hrgovic's chin could be tested like never before, if one punch shakes him a little more then it could be a problem, I hope his defense will not betray him on Saturday night...
     
  12. Fizzy Game

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    Richards UD - Hutchinson isn’t great should be easy for Richards

    Ball KO - Ford is done at 126 and should have moved up to 130.

    Williams UD - Sheeraz is good but he hasn’t fought anyone decent. Liam Williams was shot to pieces and hadn’t fought a proper fight for years. He also beat a Ukrainian moving up from 154. Williams has beat Kieron Conway and Steve Rolls who are far better than any of Sheeraz’s opponents.

    Hrgovic KO - if he hasn’t under-estimated Dubois then Hrgovic should win in style. He has to be careful of Dubois’ power though and be wary defensively.

    Zhang KO - Wilder could win by stoppage with that straight right hand against a southpaw but I think Zhang is too skilful to not land his straight left.

    So that would be 4-4. A DRAW.
     
  13. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Wilder is stationary too, his movement v Parker was clumsy and Zhang is an accurate puncher.
     
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  14. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Height 6 ft 5 in (196 cm)
    Reach 78 in (198 cm) Dubois isn`t that big, he didn`t look that big v Usyk.
     
  15. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder atleast tries to move both his feet and head. Zhang just stands still and shells up for defense. Pretty much no headmovement which is dangerous against a guy who's power can go through the guard like Wilder's.