Usyk vs. Fury rematch announced for December 21st.

I can see Fury changing his gameplan and going right after Usyk, as he did against Wilder in their second fight

 

lol…that won’t work on Usyk…Wilder was a stationary target, with no defense, no stamina, poor boxer. If Fury does go all out at Usyk, I guarantee Usyk will catch him flush with the left and we’ll see a repeat of the 9th round…

 

yea he’d need to get him out of there early otherwise he’d be gassed as all **** after 3 rounds.

 

Not just that, Fury will never been able to take center ring against Usyk. I'm laughing so hard at this "mythical" Fury - Wilder 2 version, that shows up just for 1 fight.
What are the other fights, where Fury was that mythical beast? Against Whyte, which is in the same "timeline" of this mythical Fury version, Fury was on the back foot pretty much.

Also going forward and eating punches is 10x. time more damaging than being on the back foot and eating punches. Counter shots on the front foot hurt a lot more.

 

So was Fury. This is normal procedure.
The biggest difference is that Fury was visibly hurt, and went down (if it weren't for the ropes) for the count.

 

Fury had Usyk rocked twice by the 6th-7th round. Fury had two missed opportunities to pile on the pressure for a KO.

He was surprised, just like Bellew, at how strong Usyk was in the later rounds.

I think a prime Wilder 2 Tyson Fury can stop Usyk early, but the problem is if a 2024 Tyson Fury can even get back to that prime Wilder 2 level.

 

Thats because of the cut and lies of Warren and co, as they try to make like Usyk took a beating to save facw for Fury . They are embarrasment and trying too hard. And that cut was done by a headbut, which the referee once again ignore and 2 rounds later declare the cut was caused by a punch. And Fury fans want us to believe this guy wasn't corrupt as f***....

 

Muhahahahaha. No one is stopping Usyk and never in a million year, a guy that is not heavy puncher. Fury fans still in denial. Cope harder, Fuey aged Usyk till he was 37.5 years old and a shadow of himself, and he still was smashed to pieces by the Middleweight.
Prime Usyk toys with every single aingle Fury version with ease.

 

Why is it not possible to be both a fan of Usyk and prime Fury?

I had Fury as the 60% favourite for the first fight, and Usyk is now the 60% favourite for the second fight.

The idea that the 40% underdog can never win is not a true boxing fan and has not seen any boxing upsets.

Fury by stoppage and Usyk by points was always on the cards for the first fight. Fury missed his opportunity to go for the KO when he rocked Usyk twice in the earlier rounds.

 

I never say Fury cannot win the fight. I say that there is no chance in hell that anyone, not just Fury will stop Usyk withing few rounds.

I had no problem who you are a fan of as well.

But Fury didn't miss a single thing. Usyk wasn't that hurt, yeah he was rocked, but he was never in a danger of going down or so. Usyk used his feet, and Fury couldn't follow with anything, as he was already beginning to tire. Also one of the big difference between Usyk and Fury, and not just Fury, and people somehow miss that is most HW throw 1-2-3 punches, and then need a breather, they can't follow up, as they risk gassing out. It's a timing game, 1-2 or 1,2,3 a pause to take a breather. Usyk knows this perfectly and his gameplan is around that.
And the 2 uppercuts was in the 6th round. This ain't early rounds, but middle ones.

 

Only because Fury did not move forward quickly again the very split second he rocked Usyk. He let Usyk recover easily too much. His game plan against Wilder 2 was to come forward sooner more, punches in bunches, and not let Wilder take any fight to the later rounds or the judges.

Fury's game plan was completely off in this Usyk fight as well as his physiology. Tyson's footwork or mentality may have deteriorated since Klitschko and Wilder 2. It is not all down to Usyk being the superior.

 

How many times we need to repeat this ? Usyk ain't Wilder. Wilder can't move his feet for a ****. He also doesn't know what defense is.
You can't compare Usyk and Wilder.
Fury gameplan against Usyk was the best possible one.
The whole idea to go run through Usyk has already been debunked many times. If that was possible, AJ, Dubois or Fury would have actually done it.
You can't jump on someone that move so well, even when he is so much past it. Still not going to happen, otherwise Fury and his coaches would have go for that strategy already. Same for AJ in fight 2.
And yeah it's all down to Usyk being superior, as Usyk is way way past his best days, compare to Fury. This was actually one of the best Fury version we have ever seen.
And this is very easily provable with the punch output. Fury deliver one of his career highest punch output in a highest possible pace, something he was never gone through before. So stop with the decline excuses for Fury, when Usyk is 19 months older, and his style is all age related, which is complete the opposite with Fury, as being Gigantic is for life.

 

You're acting like I am not reading your posts when you are the one not understanding my posts. Yes, Usyk has better footwork than Wilder. I never said he didn't. Usyk may even have better footwork than prime Fury. But this is not prime Fury, and regardless of that all, Fury still needed to come forward more when he rocked Usyk. Even if it is hard or exposes him to a counter left from Usyk. Fury needed to make it a war by 6-7, not let Usyk make it a war in 9-10.

Yes, Usyk is older than Fury, but age is not the only factor in one human having consistently more energy than another in the later rounds. Usyk had more energy than Bellew in the later rounds despite Bellew feeling he was winning. Fury has more damage from coming forward and leaving himself exposed in all of his other fights, he has a physical and mental emotional dysregulation that Usyk does not have. He is energised more by going up to the level of his opponent by necessity than generating his own energy. You even see this when he fought back after getting dropped by Usyk.

You also can't compare Fury's defence against Klitschko to his defence against Usyk. Two very different performances. Fury has gotten worse defensively. He was also over 5kg lighter than his best punching power.

 

I disagree

 

What you obviously don't get, as you haven't watch Usyk enough. He doesn't have better footwork, he have miles better footwork than both of Fury and Wilder together. Stop with this b.c. prime Fury, this was prime Fury, vs way past his best 37,5 years old Usyk.

And even if it wasn't prime Fury, it's his own fault, as he delayed the fight for good 2 years.
Crying about prime, when Usyk is 19 months older is pathetic. You ain't fooling anyone with this prime b.c.

There isn't a better version of Fury. He threw like 300 punches against Klitschko, and barely landed 86 punches, most of them weak arm jabs, in a f*** grab and hold low pace fight.

This was high level pace fight, where Fury threw close to 600 punches, his movement was as good as ever, and his punch output top 5 in his career.
On the other hand Usyk punch output was halved just in comparison to AJ fights, which speaks volume. His movement was nowhere near as good or as fast, his reaction time and reflexes were clearly worse, and most importantly his cardio/energy level was nowhere near what it's used to be 2 years ago.
And yeah age is not the only factor, but the biggest factor is and always will be the styles.
And everyone who knows a s**** about any sport and athlete, knows the first thing to go with age is footwork, speed, reflexes/reaction time, cardio/energy level(punch output which is clear in Usyk dropping from 700 to 400).

While some of Fury attributes may have decline, he still has his size, which is for life, and his style is a lot better going in later age to Usyk.

This is not even comparable how much worst Usyk is to his prime, than Fury.