Did Malik Scott ruin and deteriorate Wilder further?

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  1. UFC2020

    UFC2020 Active Member Full Member

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    Let's be honest, there was a world of a difference bw the Wilder before Malik Scott took over as his trainer and afterwards. Wilder before was never scared to pull the trigger and go into windmill mode but his technique, foot work and overall approach on the last 3 years has looked awful
     
  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By being a yes man, yes.

    I mean, Breland was a bit of a fraud himself at pro, but he was one of the best amateurs ever, and made his way to a couple of gifted world titles in the pro ranks. I would say that makes a better trainer than a guy who never accomplished a single good win and manifestly took a dive to the guy he ended up training.
     
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  3. Jackal

    Jackal Member Full Member

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    Malik inherited a washed up, no-talent, one-trick pony, bum.
     
  4. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    He did nothing to better Wilder as a fighter. Wilder showed little to no improvements under his tutelage.
     
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  5. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Wilder was terrible long before Scott got ahold of him.
     
  6. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe that's on Wilder. Breland pretty much said Wilder was unteachable.
     
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  7. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Yes, Malik Scott turned a versatile master boxer with genius level fight iq into a one punch seeking windmilling bum beater. Watching prime Wilder before Scott got his mitts on him was a wonder to behold. Such artistry.
     
  8. DoubleG95Fanatic

    DoubleG95Fanatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who else does he train besides Wilder and Abdo?

    Cant say I really make anything of him. He’s just 1 of those guys where you look at him and think to yourself “is he really worth giving a **** about”
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol...wait for it...GERALD WASHINGTON!
     
  10. DoubleG95Fanatic

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    Gerard Washedupton
     
  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In order to be washed up, you have to have once had it.
     
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  12. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Blows my mind... how hard is to get in the head that windmill Wilder was fighting bums?...
     
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  13. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's what I was thinking but it doesn't really matter. All he had was a right hand anyway. And he doesn't throw it. He can only blame himself for not throwing it more
     
  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well he didn't make him any better that's for sure. His advice last night was simply to just let his hands go which is like telling someone who is losing to just hit him more, easier said than done. Wilder ignored the body of Zhang, didn't feint enough, backed up into corners and Scott did nothing to address those issues.

    Scott was always brought in as a yes man who would do what Deontay wanted and simply stroke his ego. Maybe that's what he needed after that 2nd crushing Fury defeat but you need more than that to get better as a fighter.
     
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  15. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, Wilder has displayed the same weaknesses against Zhang and Parker as he did in his entire career. The difference being Parker and Zhang are proven world level HWs and not the tin cans Wilder fought the majority of his career.