Who had the most impressive performance in today's fights?

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Who had the most impressive performance?

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  1. Nick Ball

    8.9%
  2. Zhilei Zhang

    9.9%
  3. Dmitrii Bivol

    8.9%
  4. Daniel Dubois

    57.4%
  5. Hamzah Sheeraz

    7.9%
  6. Willy Hutchinson

    6.9%
  1. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

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    I would say Ball but Dubois and Hutchinson were very good too
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    For me Dubois surprised me the most with his performance. I must admit I have been a harsh critic of his, wasn't even sure if he was gatekeeper level but he proved tonight he's a legit contender. He showed better head movement than before, actually rolling under some shots, his foot work has improved a little, still moves in straight lines but he's lighter on his feet now. But the big change is mindset, he can dig deep when needed to and come back after bad spells, he learned a lot in his defeats. He's still pretty one dimensional but you know now he'll give it his all and you have to take him out of the fight now, he won't just fold and with his power he'll always be dangerous.

    Hutchinson was the other surprise of the night for me. I really thought he had a glass chin after the Clarke loss but he took some hard shots in the final rounds of that fight and didn't fold like expected. Offensively he's impressive but he still needs to work on his defence, against a more aggressive opponent he's going to struggle.
     
  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    :lol: No.
     
  4. pugilista

    pugilista Member banned Full Member

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    I didn't see anything unusual to be honest. Dubois tucks his chin in a lot and there was an unintentional clash of heads that the referee noted but I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary. I also never agreed with the idea that Holyfield was this cheating headbutt master. I remember Tyson fans saying how much Holyfield headbutted but the only headbutt I remember from that fight was done by Mike.

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  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah he would. Do you even watch UFC or MMA as a whole. They won't allow any dirty play. You are going to get DQ straight away, and rightfully so, because this was clearly intentional tactics.
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    Their so call "Goat". One illegal punch DQ.
    No one is going to wait for you to land a multiple illegal punches. They are stopping the fight straight away on poke in the eye, illegal elbow/knee/low blow, even if the fighter is okay, and the ref use a strong warning. Next time you will either get a point deduction or DQ.

    This is f**** fighting under rules, not a street fighting. If the sport doesn't have strong rules, what sport is this? Rules should be followed 100%.

    People trying to excuse this intentional cheating is just what is wrong with the sport , and why MMA has almost taken over.
     
  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Bro did you watch the fight? Unintentional my ***. He headbutted Hrgovic 20 to 30 time. You cannot charge with your head first. Go watch the fight again, and tell me how that was unintentional. He was doing it on purpose and that was 100% intentional and illegal. You cannot move with your head towards your opponent, let alone charging with it straight to him.
    Do people even watch fight carefully or are just cheering ....
    He charged with his head first against Miller as well. Dubois has become one of the dirtiest fighter in the division since don Charles started training him. A bunch of pos.
     
  7. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I watch plenty of MMA and UFC, it doesn´t happen like that. Disqualifications are super rare in MMA and boxing.
    Oh, and the example you brought up is from 2009 when the opponent could not continue due to an illegal move, thus the automatic DQ. Jon didn´t throw an illegal move which got him immediately DQ´d. He got DQ´d because the opponent could not continue after being given time to recover.
    DC eyepocked the **** out of Stipe. Masvidal opened a fight with a flying kick to the nuts. Neither got even a point deduction.

    And no, I am not excusing anything. I just said no to the fight being ended the moment someone lands a headbutt. UFC doesn´t have a single example like that.
     
  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dubois for me. Not a great performance defensively, to put it mildly, but that he showed just those traits that I thought was the ones missing was hugely impressive. I thought he could match Hrgovic early but that Hrgovic would start to grind him down by the midway point. Instead the opposite happened. Very impressive.
     
  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    DQ are happening in MMA . Not just in UFC.
    Arjan Bhullar get DQ in the final round, with like 10 seconds left of the fight, for a f***** timidity.
    Oliveira fight against Arman Tsarukyan was stopped, even though Arman was perfectly fine, when they both ended in the ground and Oliveira kicked from the ground with illegal kick. The ref completely stopped the fight and gave Arman time to recover and the doctor to check on him, even though he was okay and didn't say anything.

    This is what rules are. And the reason DQ is not happening every night in UFC is not because they don't have super strong rules, but because fighters are not being dirty and using illegal tactics constantly. You don't see a fighter cheat and gets away with it.
    They know what is coming if they try that, and that's why they don't do it.

    I never had any doubts or worry when watching and MMA fights, when it comes to referee or judges. And i had that in every single Boxing fight i watch, as i know they going to mess up badly.

    And no if you do 2 or 3 either intentional low blow or eye poke you are going to get point deducted or DQed.
    Just for anything else. And that John fight is very telling, as he was dominating the fight, and still get DQed. In Boxing he would have get away with it.
    More examples though for straight DQ:
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    Anderson Silva get DQ against Okami

    Also there is a difference between intentional and unintentional shot.
    The fight you are talking is Masvidal vs Till, and it wasn't a flying kick, it was charging push kick, which he was given 1 warning straight away by the ref and Till was given time to recover.
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    MMA has strong rules, always had, you will get warned straight away, not after the 20s low blow or headbutt. You will get DQ on the 2 or 3 intentional try in the MMA, and this is 100% certain, and why you don't see it in MMA.
     
  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ah, and this is a good example as well:
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    Accidental headbutt, turned a fight into no-contest, as it should be.
    Whyte fully intentionally KD Parker that change the whole fight, and it wasn't even called, let alone changing the contest of the fight, when that headbutt clearly changed the fight.

    Boxing rules are garbage, and referee allows the "right" fighters to get away with a murder in there.
    In MMA you may find some bad matches, but it's an a very rare exception, when in Boxing this is the norm, and this is the problem.
    USA and UK fighters are clearly getting a pass for anything in the ring, and on top of that, judges favor them huge time.
     
  11. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dubois came into the fight as the under dog facing his old nemesis from the Peacock gym days,he proved everybody wrong ,silenced the doubters for now and got the win. Dubois had to dig in at times in a few rounds and had the cuts not ended the fight he would have stopped Hrgovic anyway .
     
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  12. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Damn this might be your worst take on a fight ever Lash.
     
  13. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sometimes loses are a good thing. Look at how Whyte beat up Parker, I don’t reckon he could bully and beat up Parker like that now.
     
  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    So you think it was smart move by Hrgovic to not pace himself and punch himself out in the early rounds?
    Or it was smart not complaining about the illegal headbutts.
    Hrgovic was sucked by emotions and this is what betrayed him.
    Dubois obviously has showed tons of heart as well, as he eat hard and hard punches, and he still was going forward to pressure Hrgovic.
     
  15. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He just got beat up, he almost wasn’t ready for a scrap. He ran out of gas, he needs to fitter and fight more often. He might be decent in the long run but he fights to amateur and stiff.