Filip Hrgovic career is finished, and I am going down with the ship

I thought Hrgovic was the real deal after the Zhang fight. Granted something wasn’t quite fully right with his concentration and defense, but he threw a lot of punches, looked a good boxer and took a great punch. Suspected him and Zhang would give AJ and Usyk a real go.

That fight against the southpaw was awful though and looking back it’s obvious Hrgovic wasn’t all that legit, but I really didn’t see this result coming. Thought he’d stop Dubois after his perceived quit jobs.

 

Unless Hrgovic has a complete change in application to the sport, ie he gets a trainer who's worth a damn and he actually gets into tip top condition, on the evidence of his last 4-5 fights, he gets smoked by pretty much anyone in the top 10.

Quite how that opinion is potentially flying in the face of the general consensus, I have no idea. Please fill me in. I've only watched and participated in boxing and other martial arts for 45 years and therefore I must have limited knowledge of what I see with my own ****ing eyes.......Hrgovic has gone nowhere, and is going nowhere unless he starts applying himself. He's the new Tony Yoka, all the physical attributes, not enough ambition.

 

Wrong game plan, defence found lacking etc etc are not good but happen, and often only exposed on fight night, but the one thing that was in total control of Hrgovic was to be in peak physical condition, as Alis quote goes:

"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses - behind the lines, in the gym, and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights"

Gassing by mid rounds showed Hrgovic was not in peak physical condition.

 

hrgovic didn’t look remotely shot. He looked out of shape and like he took Dubois too lightly. Had he busted ass in the gym, he could have won that fight.

Take some time off and heal. Then get back in the gym with a vengeance, and go the AJ route. Build back up, staying busy.

He absolutely can come back from the loss, especially with the Saudi’s now making **** happen.

 

Could be a reality check. He's clearly better than Dubois but was betrayed by his poor conditioning/Dubois headbutting the **** out of him. If Hrgovic can stay more active and get rid of a few bad habits he's still young enough to turns thing around.

 

And what’s up with these guys who carry around dad bod fat for no reason? That extra 20lbs he’s carrying is doing nothing for him except slowing him down and hurting his cardio.

are you a professional athlete or not? Control your diet.

 

Ok, so you had Dubois, I gather, if it's been so clear for the last 4-5 fights? And you had Parker against Wilder and Zhang?

Well, I didn't and that's why I don't in any way count Hrgovic out. Not saying he will go to do great things either, but if he pulls himself together and have a good run of a couple of fights like Dubois and Parker has had I wouldn't be very surprised.

And from his point of view, he must get some good wins if he wants to go anywhere and needs to take risks. If he's going to approach the rest of his career with "pretty much anyone in the top 10 smokes me", yeah, then it might be an idea to retire. But I don't think he should be so hopeless about it, he should instead put his head down, work hard and try to get some good fights, even though they contain risk. One loss shouldn't make him give up ffs.

 

The difference between Hrgovic and the likes of Parker and Dubois is ambition and application. Parkers losses have largely been due to the wrong game plan or lack of top level experience. He changed trainer and reapplied himself to a new training regimen under Andy Lee, Dubois doing the same and that has produced results. Dubois and Parker have generally always come into fights in shape, whereas Hrgovic's conditioning seems to be on the slide.

If Hrgovic stays with his current team, he becomes a high level gate keeper and no more. He carried himself in the week leading up to the fight like the main man of the 5V5 with absolutely SFFA on his resume to suggest he warrants such a lofty placing. After 3 rounds he was blowing out his arse and proceeded to get beaten down and by round 5 looked genuinely sorry for himself: this is a supposed top level athlete with a stellar amateur career and grounding, really?

And no, I didn't favour Dubois which makes Hrgovic's defeat even more surprising. I've always fancied Parker to beat Wilder as Wilder is and always has been a one trick pony who has been found wanting when fighting genuine top 10 opposition (I don't include Ortizn't in that parameter).

 

Yes, agreeing with others here: One loss on cuts at age 31 doesn't automatically translate to retirement. Get back in the gym, rebuild, study the tapes, etc.

There will be hi-profile and hi-ticket fights awaiting him -- among them, Zhang taking the opportunity of avenging his "loss." And if Hrgovic can manage to beat Zhang for real -- which would entail head (etc.) movement... he's back in the conversation.

 

He's just not that good a boxer. B level at best. Slow hands, poor defences, and a very bad haircut.

 

Ok, so I take you, like me, didn't manage to predict these results despite your 45 years in combat sports or whatever it was. You will have to excuse me if I'm not sure you're right this time either.

Of course Hrgovic should look to get some good opponents in the ring with hims to prove his worth, even if one or two tune-ups might be a good idea. And a change-up in the team might be required as well.

But, no, I don't think he should view himself as without a chance against anyone in the top 10 and don't see you as an oracle on this. He might fail, yes, but he should definitely give it a try and of course apply the right dedication. He might turn it around, he might not, but to just throw in the towel after one bad night is not what I think he should do.

I think this is a quite uncontroversial opinion and I really don't give a toss about your predictions, that seem to have failed before just like everyones do now and then.

 

I'm actually struggling to figure out WTAF you're arguing with me about. Hrgovic looked like hot garbage last night after 3 rounds, the same against Zhang, which in my opinion should have been a loss, fought Mark Demori (Who?) and McKean and I'm somehow deluded in thinking that he hasn't got the dedication or frankly, the minerals to win a version of the world title.

Tell me when exactly has he shown what's required to take on Usyk, Fury, AJ or Parker and come out on top. Last night he got absolutely wrecked by a guy only 18 months ago was deemed as being a quitter, so what does that make Hrgovic, elite world level?

 

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/the-ends-of-wilder-zhang-hrgovic-and-diboa.721802/

 

Finished after one loss?

Hrgovic is the better boxer. But DD is the better fighter and mentally tougher. Simple as that

 

He lost once didn't he? He can rebuild, stronger than ever!