How will Deontay Wilders legacy be remembered

Regarding rematch clauses, fact is it ties the titles up, so does not give other contenders even the opportunity to fight for the title.

I do not have a crystal ball anymore than you do, so cannot make definitive predictions, and taking for example Wlads loss to Fury, if Wlad had fought as he did that night, there is a distinct possiblitiy he would have lost to fighters other than Fury.

Regarding fake rankings for Wilders opponents, well that is above my pay grade to say.

I am not here to defend Wilder regarding his challengers, if sanctioning bodies and boxing authorities permit those challengers to go for the title, or for titles to be tied up with rematch clauses then so be it.

The fact is to prove who can beat who definitively they have to actually face each other in the squared circle, who in all honesty expected Spinks to beat Ali, Douglas to beat Tyson or Ruiz to beat AJ, however they did as they were given the opportunity too.

I have no interest in debating with you, you have your opinion and i have mine, and i stick with viewpoint in my original post

 

I’m sure when he’s an old man it will bother him a bit at the lack of legacy due to the weak opposition he built his record and reputation with regardless of paycheque to paycheque. The question was about his legacy not his financial situation.

 

I mean a debate is kind of the point of posting in the first place why bother posting anything at all just keep telling yourself what you know to be true

 

One of the three hardest hitters ever, one of the 40 best Hws ever and one of the best 100 best fighters ever.

Unfortunately he lacks fundamentals and a true champion cant lack fundamentals and lose almost 5 (the draw with Fury was a loss) consecutive fights with the first good fighters you face. It would be a shame ranking him higher for the whole boxing world.

PS: I forgot: hes even one the 15 best journeymen and Uber drivers ever.

 

Legacy points

a)The KO percentage record
b)Being the best American HW of the early 21st century
c)2 of the 3 Fury fights being classics.
d)His 10 title defenses even if most don't consider him the actual champ. The record books say that happened.

If Miller or one of the next American prospects doesn't hit Wilder could very well end up being the best US HW for a 50 year stretch.

 

No hate but I just don’t see him as one of the 100 best fighters ever and that top 40 HW is a hell of a stretch he was entertaining and had power but that’s it.

 

A. any top 10 fighter would have that KO record against the same opposition
B. Maybe but he didn't fight the other top Americans to find out
C.true but he only fought Fury because his team thought Fury was a easy touch
D. The record books will also say he never fought a legit contender in any of them defences until his Fury cherry pick with maybe the exception of Ortiz who himself never done anything to be considered a top fighter only reason he is talked about is because the Wilder team and fans made him out to be somthing he wasn't the same way Fury made Wilder out to be better that he was to make himself look better

 

He will be remembered as the Heavyweight John Mugabi.

 

Thing is, he couldn't afford to throw his 100% "bombz" against these guys - they're not dumb enough to fail to see it coming, and they're capable of punishing him for trying it.

This is where the issue comes in with the idea that Wilder is an ATG hard puncher...

Any heavy with a decently hard punch on them can plant both feet and throw all their weight behind a very heavy punch - and it'll have absolutely brutal power.
But realistically, unless you're fighting guys who can't really hurt you and/or can't see the telegraph - it's not really going to land and you're going to get hurt badly if it doesn't.

See Joshua against Ngannou - that punch had filthy power behind it, most likely as hard as anything Wilder's ever thrown (and possibly harder) and completely shut down a guy with a very decent chin...
So why does Joshua not do that more often?
Because if you put everything into it, you'll wind up off balance and wide open to get knocked out on the counter - and unlike Wilder, Joshua has fought plenty of guys who could do that.

So ultimately, it's because Wilder spent his prime and title reign fighting no-hopers that anyone thinks he's this mythical big puncher - if he'd fought the kind of opponents a champion should be searching out, nobody would've had this misapprehension about him... And his reign would've been very short.

 

He might have started drinking his own kool-aid later on his championship run but even then I'm not convinced. He seemed delighted that he wouldn't have to face Povetkin.

 

That'll be a damning indictment of American boxing if that ends up being the case.

 

Yeah maybe even he knew that would not of gone well for him

 

He had the guts to get in that there ring, was willing to go out on his shield, made up some crazy excuses, but more importantly he made a shed load of money to set his family up for life.
I respect him as a fighter, he achieved in his career what most can only dream about.
I wish him all the best in his future.

 

Trust me, it won't, all the big boxers of the current era will meet up 5-10 years down the road in retirement over dinner, meet up, major fight and have a laugh about things. Just look at the likes of Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe etc, do you see them crying or complaining about things they were not able to achieve or accomplish in boxing? Nope, Tyson subsequently was able to move on to better things like his show, podcast, marijuana business

Wilder was more concerned about setting himself and his family up financially via boxing as he admitted in a recent interview. He won't give a damn about his legacy in the sport.

 

He's no Don Steele, and the numbers don't lie.