Mike McCallum versus FMJ at 154

Jackson would KO Cotto at 154 and Curry would beat the Cotto who lost to Mayweather and Trout.

ODLH was a part time fighter.

Canelo was at catchweight.

 

Nice try merging the Cotto (biggest fight of his career) who fought Mayweather with the guy who showed up for Trout.

ODLH from the Floyd fight might’ve beaten Jackson.

Catchweight that Canelo agreed to minus rehydration clause. Floyd gave up 15 to twenty on fight night.

 

Cotto was exactly the same fighter against Trout that he was vs Mayweather.

154 wasn't a good weight for Cotto he was also past it and his only notable wins at the weight were vs two washed up fighters in Mayorga and Margarito who had a seriously compromised eye injury from getting beat to a pulp by Pacquiao.

I consider the ODLH win a good win for Mayweather and also the Canelo win but I don't think either fight has much relevance in regards to a match up vs a prime McCallum.

Canelo inpaticular doesn't have a high workrate and fights a very economical pace which suits Mayweather down to the ground.

 

I agree the inactive ODLH was passed his best when he fought Mayweather. McCallum was naturally bigger than ODLH & a much better LMW. Mayweather's fight vs that version of ODLH does not bode well for his chances vs a peak McCallum.

I'm with you, in a way this is an unfair comparison, Mayweather was an even better p4p fighter than the brilliant McCallum, just not to the same material extent that Mike was bigger.

Couple of relevant points on Canelo's weight in & around the Mayweather bout:

1) Canelo's next 5 x fights post Mayweather were contested at 155lbs. For the benefit of staging those fights just 1lbs above LMW to outweigh the ridicule he endured ("Caneloweight"), suggests to me that Canelo felt making 154lbs took too much from him, let alone making 152lbs. To be fair, in his 6th fight post Mayweather, he fought at 154lbs vs Liam Smith, but that was the only time post Mayweather he ever fought at or under 154lbs & it's likely he felt he'd have enough to beat a fighter of Smith's quality even if not 100% draining to that weight.

2) The growing Canelo had a recorded fight night weight of 172lbs vs Austin Trout. 5-months later & his recorded fight night weight was 165lbs. Pure speculation on my part, but that difference allied with a lacklustre performance (even when making allowance for Mayweather's brilliance), made me wonder if there was a rehydration clause that the contract stipulated must be kept from the public domain. Otherwise, it's curious that a growing young man would choose to be 7lbs lighter on fight night relative to his previous contest. I recall Canelo's team insisting on a rehydration clause that was kept out of the public domain, though it obviously subsequently became public knowledge, years later against Kovalev. Something he/his team learned from the Mayweather fight? Either way, I've no doubt rehydration clauses, and indeed non-weight related clauses, are included in fight contracts with NDA's in place with the intent of keeping them from becoming public knowledge.

 

Another fantasy matchup where Floyd doesn't take the fight .. what are we up to about 20 of them now

 

Where are you even getting the 165 weight from? I've never seen it.

 

Cotto looked flat against Trout and looked sharp against Mayweather. It wasnt the same form.

Canelo wasn't economical at all against GGG. There's a reason why he was economical against Mayweather.

Speaking of relevant match ups, McCallum took an L against Floyd impersonator Kalambay. I guess that can be overlooked if it doesn't suit the agenda.

 

So let me get this straight Cotto was totally sharp vs Mayweather then in his very next fight against Trout hes not the same fighter ? And you're saying I have an agenda ? Yeah of course you're not saying that to make Mayweather look better......

What weight did the fight take place at ? Middleweight. And I don't think Kalambay fights like Mayweather at all.

Canelo is economical and fights at a measured pace hes never come close to throwing 800+ punches like McCallum did vs Toney.

Funny enough since you're talking about styles Toney also fought out of the shoulder roll defence like Mayweather and McCallum managed to hit Toney 700+ times in 2 fights.

 

I recall seeing/reading it around the time of the fight and multiple times since. Unofficial weight, of course.

Quick Google search now and these articles reference it:

https://prowresblog.blogspot.com/2013/09/floyd-mayweather-vs-canelo-alvarez.html?m=1

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maywea...mayweather-puts-on-dominating-display-in-win/

 

Look at you, reaching for straws. Kalamabay aka Diet Mayweather came in below 160 during same day era. McCallum doesn't have the right stuff to win against Mayweather.

As for Cotto, fighters fall off extremely frequently after losing the biggest fight of their career. I could name some, but I refuse to stoop to your level of pedantery.

 

I've never seen Canelo complain about a rehydration clause. I don't think it existed. It could be that his team wanted him a few pounds lighter after the close fight with Trout.

 

And I refuse to stoop down to your bait posts so you can drag out conversations to get reactions as you often like to do so goodbye, I gotta better things to do with my time have fun baiting someone else.

 

Kalambay dec MM . So does Money .

 

I don't remember what the stats were, but I remember Toney had a tendency of getting lazy and not fighting the full three minutes of a round, hence the reason he had so many close fights that were split or majority decisions.

 

Toney had active hands, but not active feet. if he used optimal footwork, he wouldn't have been throwing or getting hit so much.