If Wilder took on the same fights AJ did

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Would Wilder done better than AJ with same fights AJ took

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  3. Come off worse with more L's

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  1. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    Not sure why you would say that. Joshua's whole record is filled with 40 year old men top to bottom and the same kind of guys Wilder defended the WBC strap 10 times against. Whole lot of fluff here just like your post. You must be counting Joshua's losses as being more special than Wilder's losses somehow. I don't think losing to Ruiz and Usyk counts for much personally.
     
  2. RGBoxing

    RGBoxing Member Full Member

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    Except the 40 year old AJ went in with was some of the best boxers of there time
     
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  3. RGBoxing

    RGBoxing Member Full Member

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    AJ losses are more special than Wilders win let alone his losses
     
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  4. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    Except that 40 year old looked like a decrepit old corpse in his last fight. What were those punch stats from Wlad in that fight again? Thats what I thought. Whole lot of fluff in that Joshua record too that you then turn around and accuse Wilder of the same thing
     
  5. RGBoxing

    RGBoxing Member Full Member

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    I am sorry but anyone who puts WK as the same level as Ortiz can not be taken seriously WK stops him at any point of his career
     
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    No they're not. A loss to Ruiz and Usyk isn't more valuable than a draw and two losses to Fury and had Wilder went on the same exact rebuild path as Joshua after that you'd be singing his praises like a hypocrite after tipping all those tomato cans over
     
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    Thats such BS and you know it. Newsflash that wasn't a prime Wlad. Read his punch stats the fight before that and weep. Ortiz at least was something of a threat around the time.
     
  8. RGBoxing

    RGBoxing Member Full Member

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    I half jest of course and I would of gave Wilder props if did come back and fight the same guys AJ did because he would have a new best win in Wallin but I'm not sure he would beat him tbh
     
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    You know who I'm not sure who AJ would beat? Zhang. A not green Parker under Andy Lee entering into his peak years. But I guess he chose not to fight them. But guess who did? Don't try to flex a bum of the month lineup like it means something and if you do don't leave out that it took Joshua 7 rounds to KO a guy Wilder just KOed in 1. Lets see Joshua fight a monster like Zhang and see how he looks, but I forgot Joshua doesn't fight punchers anymore since he got knocked out by one
     
  10. RGBoxing

    RGBoxing Member Full Member

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    Zhang vs AJ would be a good fight everything else you said is nonsense.
    How do you think Wilder would of took that right hand from WK
     
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  11. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    Nonsense is your nonreply to any of the points that got brought forth. Just say you forfeit or I will say it for you. And no I wouldn't pick that decaying version of Wlad to beat anybody not even a flawed Wilder
     
  12. RGBoxing

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    How do you respond to someone so deluded they think Ortiz and WK are on the same level at any point sometimes you just have to take take a step back and think about what Bill Murray said on trying to win arguments
     
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  13. DoubleG95Fanatic

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    He’d have lost to Parker and brutally stopped by both Povetkin and Takam.
     
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  14. tragedy

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    At any point? What year is "at any point" be specific. Because in 2017 Wlad was 41 years old coming off a 2 year layoff and loss where he set compubox lows. Ortiz was a actually real threat in the division. You keep bringing up "at any point" like its a real time period that actually happened where Wlad wasn't a 41 year old man coming off a 2 year layoff and loss.
     
  15. Kiwi Casual

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    The only people I see Wilder losing to on AJs resume is Wlad, Povetkin and Usyk. Obviously he's already lost to Parker.