If Wilder took on the same fights AJ did

I don't view old Wlad and old Povetkin as impressive names. A young fresh Wilder could have beat them, as flawed and as limited as he was.

 

You are remembering a completely made up version of Wladimir Klitschko in your head. In 2017 Wlad was coming off a 2 year layoff and loss and looked horrible in that loss. In the fight before that one he struggled with Bryant Jennings who was brutally knocked out by Luis Ortiz. You're saying Ortiz couldn't beat a way past it Klitschko when he just brutally KOed the same guy Klitschko was just struggling with at that point.

 

They'd all outbox him its just a question if he could KO them.

TBH he has never KO'd a elite heavyweight and he just went 17 rounds with Zhang and Parker and didn't rock them once...

so no one really knows.. but he'd lose quite a few on AJ's resume going off recent events.

 

in 2017 and at 41 years old Klitschko was no longer a serious player in the heavyweight division and didn't have a noteworthy win in years at that point. At that point Luis Ortiz was knocking out fighters that Klitschko was struggling to beat. Theres nothing concrete to imply that Klitschko at 41 could conclusively beat anybody anymore other than your sentimentality clouding your judgment around what the reality was at that point.

 

It’s all speculation because he probably won’t fight again… but one thing we know for sure Fury saying Wilder beats everyone else bar him is in fact a beat up… Wilder would be lucky to be anyone in the Top 10 at the moment

 

Ortiz vs Klitschko in a mythical H2H doesn't disprove that Wlad was a past it fighter in 2017. What does that have to do with anything?

 

Wlad at 39 was struggling to get past Bryant Jennings so at 41 he easily beats Luis Ortiz? Coming off a layoff and a loss? Even if Wlad hypothetically beat him theres no scenario that he doesn't struggle like hell. Why? Because he was way too past it at that stage. Thats the whole point.

 

Wilder was a total fraud and Fury, really made his name off his trilogy with Wilder. Fury, ****ing terrible champion, loads of inactivity and all the BS. Fools were saying he was the best ever. I'm a huge fan of Usyk but it doesn't change the fact that Fury is/was a hype job. Wilder, probably the biggest hype job in history and forget that clown who says Ortiz = Klitschko, he obviously DKSAB!

 

The only problem is when you look at Joshua's record with that same magnifying glass it doesn't look that good either

 

It sounds like you completely drank the kool aid that beating up on 40 year old men is some great accomplishment. Probably because Joshua's whole record is filled with them.