Mike McCallum versus FMJ at 154

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Who wins this fight

  1. McCallum by decision

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    75.0%
  2. McCallum by knockot

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    12.5%
  3. FMJ by points

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    12.5%
  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, I showed them to you. Far higher output than Mayweather. Prime Toney at MW and SMW was much more active than later and heavier versions.
     
  2. PernellSweetPea

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    I think Floyd ducked fighters and handpicked, but his style-stylistically I am speaking.. Could be trouble for Mike.. Although Mike was a big 154 pounder in my mind. His long arms were what made him such a great body puncher coming underneath. He was a master.
     
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    McCallum wasn't a huge puncher. Dela Hoya, Mosley, Cotto, Canelo & Pacquiao have the same level or some of them slightly more power than McCallum and they couldn't KO Mayweather. He also wasn't an offensive come-forward slugger, so I don't see him bodying Floyd. He was a technical boxer. It'll be a technical chess. I'd pick McCallum solely based size, but this is no walk in the park for McCallum.
     
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    Norris would be more stylistically tougher for Floyd than McCallum IMO. His speed, power, athleticism & technical ability will pose a serious threat to Mayweather because Mayweather won't be able to hurt him. McCallum is much better for Floyd stylistically. I see him having a lot of success.
     
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    Agreed, though I still don't think he'd easily beat Floyd at 154.
     
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    Possibly, i'd have to go back and watch some 154 Floyd.
     
  7. Bokaj

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    At 154 he was more aggressive than at MW, but certainly no Maidana.

    Floyd's speed will be a problem. The question is how much McCallum off-sets it with his superior size.
     
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  8. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Norris posed a serious threat to anyone at 154 and Floyd would be no different. I see a bad night for Floyd here as well.

    I can't say I see a rationale for Norris being 'stylistically' tougher for Floyd than McCallum, however.
     
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  9. Man_Machine

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    This is it. I agree with the speed being a problem (isn't it always?) but it is not insurmountable.

    McCallum had technical acumen, was composed, cerebral, selective in his punching, accurate, and wasn't that easy to read. That he carried his talents in a 5' 11" to 6' frame has to be factored in here - especially given that McCallum actually used his ranginess, launching effective assaults at distance, as a matter of course.

    Not sure why people aren't recognizing McCallum's power at 154, either. He wasn't on the Norris level, but he could dig a fair bit, and this too would be a factor.
     
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  10. Bokaj

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    Yeah, he had attrition power at 154. One can just look at McCrory's reaction when he digs in some vicious body shots in the 5th. Those were the beginning of the end. Off the top of my head, I think all his title defences at 154 were stoppages.
     
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  11. NoNeck

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    Mayweather had a lot more than speed.
     
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    what beats speed is the jab and mc callum had an excellent one
     
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    Mayweather had a better jab than McCallum.
     
  14. Bokaj

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    I love that jab, and especially how he continuously doubled and tripled on it, while moving. It was always active, but still very precise.
     
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  15. Man_Machine

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    Indeed. He was a fine technician.