Usyk confirms Fury was his toughest fight

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  1. pugilista

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    It's strategic, mate. Look at how the fight panned out. Look at the Jabbr punch count, look who pushed the action. Fury won 2 rounds (5, 6), maybe 3 if you are really pushing it (4, 5, 6 with round 4 seeing both guys landing the same amount of high impact punches but still Usyk with the higher number of total punches and pushing the action) and he was knocked out, we all saw it. He was so out of it the ref had to assist him back to his corner. The Briedis fight was a close 7-5 decision for Usyk with Briedis never close to being stopped. Don't just look at what is being said, [url]look at the context and the evidence.[/url] Look at those numbers and data. Does it look like a close, tough fight? Of course not, you know it.

    Fury was not Usyk's toughest fight, it's clear why he says what he is saying now. Because he has to if he wants Fury to show up in December–and knowing Fury and his cowardice, even all the praises in the world might not be enough.
     
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  2. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was a tough fight. Usyk's toughest, in his own opinion and he is entitled to his opinion no matter how much it might not suit some people.
     
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  3. Salty Dog

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    makes sense, but 3kdr are drunk the whole time. and they're not very good at it...
     
  4. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They didn't make the claim. Usyk did.
     
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  5. Salty Dog

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    you are really invested in the idea that fury is good, huh? i was joking because i always watch/listen to those fellas and they're always drinking tequila. i could drink them both under the table one after the other, of course.
     
  6. Pugguy

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    The alleged motive behind quotes are always malleable in the hands of different people.

    The truth is, people have already their minds up due to other evidence - eg, per the eye test, as they perceived the fight.

    IF Usyk had said it was his EASIEST fight, would people be inclined to say that he was telling it like it was/is?

    Fury said that he himself was ideally conditioned and fought his best. As much as that was possible at this stage of his career. I agree with that statement.

    Not because Fury said it, but because that what I believe I saw.

    Usyk, in all possibly, could be trying to sell the rematch - and it wouldn’t be like a lie to promote himself, rather, just a fib to promote the fight itself.

    Per the eye test, though Usyk won clearly, I could get on board with it being his toughest fight.

    I don’t think Usyk was so much bamboozled by Fury as much as he was simply tired within himself during rounds 4-6, during which time Fury was able to step up his own offence.

    Of course, Usyk later drew on his second wind...but it seemed the engine is no longer quite what it used to be - and none too surprising when factoring all due context.

    Both guys aren’t exactly what they used to be - and there is no way Fury is more deteriorated than Usyk - in fact, given certain deteriorations, it could be argued that Usyk’s overall game has seen a greater reduction in “effectiveness” than Fury’s.
     
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  7. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is a one man poll. Usyk's opinion.
     
  8. pugilista

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    Usyk also claimed how tough a fight Chisora was. Until he confirmed it in an interview a few weeks ago that it wasn't by finally admitting that he played possum to make himself look more beatable for Joshua. Many suspected this already at the time, and I argued over it with so many people over the years on various platforms. They only kept saying what you are saying now: "Why are you arguing? Usyk said it, his words, not mine." Usyk knows how the fight game works, and sometimes you have to do and say things to have a certain impression on your opponent.
     
  9. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People can call Usyk out for being a liar if they like but I'm not buying that. If there is a more honest, straight up boxer out there than Usyk I am yet to hear of him.
     
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  10. pugilista

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    I wouldn't call these outright lies. They are strategic red herrings and mind games. I'm convinced that in a few years Usyk will say that calling Fury his toughest fight was strategic, just like he eventually admitted he played possum against Chisora.
     
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    You are trying to guess the future. Good luck with that. None of us know what the future holds but we do know about the present and Usyk has provided his opinion and I respect it, even if others don't.
     
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  12. pugilista

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    I respect it just don't believe it :) Looking at a track record is not guesswork, mate. It's called precedent.
     
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  13. Salty Dog

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    i read the whole thing. the only thing i must disagree with is what i emboldend. please make that case sans hyperbole.
     
  14. like a boss

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    I respect and believe Usyk's opinion. I have no reason to disbelieve it and nothing anybody has offered here gives me reason to.

    Usyk is a man of honour.
     
  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    I haven't seen the Breidis fight since it happened but I remembered the Breidis fight being a closer harder fight than the Fury fight. But again Fury is a big man and Usyk did take some solid shots between 4-6 so who I am to say I'm not the one in the ring feeling what hes feeling.