Dubois did 25 headbuts vs Hrgovic, video count

Bro honestly it’s boxing. We have all been fans of fighters who lost.

 

Hrgovic hit De Mori with 6 rabbit punches in a minute and a half. Didn't hear you whinging then, what goes around comes around.

 

I'm in a break from the forum, but comes on here to specifically reply to this post. I know you are a huge fan of Usyk, and it's seems the reason you are defending Dubois is exactly because of it. So Usyk wins to looks better over Dubois, but this is just sad.

You cannot head charge with your head going into clinches. And do you understand how ridicouls you sound with the 25+ headbutts being accidental ?
You clearly are bias, cause there is a clear pattern in which way Dubois was moving his head, not just in that fight, but in the Miller fight as well. He is clearly trying to catch the opponent head.

And you obviously have no idea what even a 10% full swing headbutt can do to you, and your stamina.

After Whyte KD Parker with a headbutt, Parker was literally gone, all of his stamina disappear. Same thing happen to AJ when Ruiz caught him a temple shot. AJ was gassed hard.

You cannot move your head like that in the clinches, and you cannot constantly headbutt someone accidentally. You also cannot swing from down to up and to left to right and vice versa with your head, which is exactly what Dubois was doing. All of the headbutts ended on Hrgovic face, and all of the headbutts was done with Dubois forehead or top of the head. Accidental headbutt is when 2 guys collide with their headbutts, not when 1 guy headbutting the other fighter face.

I'm a Usyk fan, and not just that i liked Dubois in the past, cause of his front-back foot bouncing movement, and as he is young lad, but since he moved to don Charles he is becoming one of the dirtiest cheater in the game.

The only reason referee didn't do anything is cause he was on payroll, and was British as well.
This was the same id**** that refereeing AJ - Parker.
You can answer yourself how a complete incompetent piece of s**** can get his way to Saudi in that big of a card, and the reason for it. BBBOC is always going to support and cheat their fellows to a victory as well.

P.P. Will prolly read your respond, but won't reply, have that in mind, as i come just to answer this, and continue with my break.

 

Sorry, but no. He knows what he is doing. He is tell what to do, by his piece of s**** coach.
Don't try with that. 25 headbutt in a single fight, should lead to straight DQ, and even ban from the sport for quite some time. Whether they were light or hard, doesn't matter. Go watch the Miller fight. He was charging with his headbutt the same way, and Miller ain't taller. He was warned in there, but since that warning he keep doing it, and even the commentators notice it, and say i hope they don't take DQ him for it.
There was 20 low blows/illegal punches in the Usyk fight, and this is just his last 3 fights, all under don Charles, you think any of this is accidental ?

 

Yeah, Holyfield certainly was among the most notorious head-butters... not that that justified Tyson biting his ear off of course....

 

No man, he just got beat up. Some head buts, some hard punches. His stamina was ****. Much more skill, desire, will, was predicted by many here.
If he’s good he can come back, he just needs to come back not so brittle.

 

Does anybody even ever get DQ'd for headbutts at a high level?? ever?? examples?

 

Wow. He sure does like to foul doesn’t he. I guess for the usual suspects all those are legal too??? Like the Usyk low blow?? And remember he didn’t go low on Usyk just that one time. There were multiple shots below the belt before that.

Refs need to start deducting points or disqualifying him.

 

You may have point, while it's impossible to know his intentions I'd forgotten about the fouls in the Miller and Usyk fight. When it's one fight where there could be a clash of styles it's one thing but when you have 3 foul filled fights then it looks like a strategy.

 

Again you cannot use your head like that. You can

Yeah and Dubois was pushing his head into Hrgovic face in every single clinch.
Tgis speaks volume. He tried to make thw cuts worst. And Dubois was the one initiate almost every single clinch. This ain't accidental.
He is a f**** powerhouse and doesn't need any of that shyte. I hope when AJ ends him, he fired don Charles and stop doing this shyte.
That POS Charles should make him learn a proper defense, not being dirty fighter.
That was from me, see you guys.

 

Should've been a TD win for Hrgovic but tbh I didn't really care for it as both were ****ing terrible.

To his credit he made nothing of them the whole fight.

 

Nah, mate, Usyk has nothing to do with it. As I mentioned, I wanted Hrgovic to win in the first place.

I think the reason I see these things differently from you guys is that I don't really see anything different than what Holyfield was accused of back in the day. Granted, in comparison, Dubois did look deliberate at times, but ultimately, I just think this is what happens when a fighter who is pushing the action comes in low and glues his chin to his chest. The taller fighter, especially if he stands upright, could experience his opponent's head bumping into his face. I was a huge Lennox fan back in the day but didn't agree with him about Holyfield headbutting him either. Bowe, Mercer, Foreman, Holmes, Douglas, etc., never mentioned once how Holyfield was this headbutting cheat.

The only two fighters who talked about this were Lewis and Tyson—a tall guy whom Holyfield tried to get close to, and a short slugger who also comes in ferociously in the pocket with his head tucked in. These stylistic differences, coupled with the respective heights of Lewis and Tyson, were always going to result in clashes of heads. I just don't find it plausible that Holyfield used headbutts against the two specific guys only whose height and style inherently meant accidental clashes of heads. Do I think Holyfield was careful with his head? Hell no. He definitely was thinking "don't mind if I do" if his head clashed into that of his opponent as he went in. But do I think he did it deliberately, targeting the chin or other specific areas? No, I don't. If for nothing else, then because it is really hard to do. It's hard enough to land punches with your hands; it's immensely harder to do it with your head. Same with Dubois. He tried headbutting and low blows against a final eliminator opponent, but "only" tried low blows when fighting for the unified world title? Why didn't he try to headbutt Usyk as well to boost his chances? He was throwing low blows all night alright, that's not even up for debate. But why not headbutting the guy, especially since he talked about headbutting and elbowing and whatnot before the fight?

Long story short, it's really difficult to use your head as a weapon in the ring. Stylistic and height differences at times will make it look like a fighter pushing the action is a headbutting cheat, but I think with Holyfield and Dubois, it was mostly recklessness than anything else.

But then again, I appreciate where you or @Serge are coming from. I can't prove any of my aforementioned arguments, obviously, and I could very well be just plain wrong. Ultimately, only Holyfield and Dubois know whether they are headbutting cheats and I'm just talking nonsense here, trying to rationalise what I saw from them. So this is just my opinion, boys. And you know what they say about opinions and a certain orifice.

 

It's good that somebody notice. Thank you.