Is Matthew Saad Muhammad an All Time Great ?

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  1. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Where does he fit?
     
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    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have a higher bar than that for ATG.
     
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    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    I think he could be considered an ATG Light Heavyweight.
     
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    I love Saad one of my favorite fighters and was always in a war and fun to watch.He’s in no shape or form a ATG not even close.
     
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    A fight with Michael Spinks would have been interesting but they were co champions for a few months only.

    I think Spinks would win handily but if Saad Muhammad had stayed a couple more years as champion, i can definitely see it being an HBO fight, back when HBO was it as far as boxing fights, like Spinks-Qawi was later.
     
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    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    He like Arturo Gatti, Bobby Chacon and Wilfredo Gomez, risked a longer career in order to entertain us.

    Had he been a proper boxer, like Michael Spinks or Muhammad Ali, for example, who knows how better he could have been.
     
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    Top five, just below the great Tommy loughran and above such notables as Michael Spinks
     
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    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd say he was a great fighter at light heavyweight, yeah.

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    Yes because of his incredible heart, power, and durability. HIs fight with Yaqui Lopez at Atlantic City is arguably the greatest competitive back and forth fight of all time.
     
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    I’m not hugely into ranking fighters in weight classes (I’ve gone it a time or two but always say ‘if you asked me again tomorrow or next week, the list might look different’) and I have no particular criteria for where the line les for ATG, but Saad was an ATG warrior with a heart bigger than Philadelphia.

    That’s great enough for me. He’ll always have a special place in my heart for the grit, determination and sheer willpower he displayed.
     
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  11. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At LH? He makes my top 10 all time, so sure.
     
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    He deserves to be in the hall of fame but that isn’t always the equivalent of being an all time great. Mathew Franklin had a very good career. But light heavyweight is a very tough division to secure an ATG spot when you’re in the company of Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Bob Foster, Billy Conn, Michael Spinks, Roy Jones and numerous others
     
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    Could he beat RJJ?
     
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    He is an ATG in my book
     
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    He was initially. But like Wilfredo Gomez he became intoxicated with his
    power.
     
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