Who exactly is this "Perfect Boxer"????

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Hate to tell you but John McDermott on his worst night would flatten Floyd :bananaride:p
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Boy, were you ever on your period when you started this comment.
     
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  3. Aizen

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    It's Hearns with Hagler's chin.
     
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Leonard. Complete.

    If he was a switch hitter he would be the most complete fighter of all time imo
     
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  5. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    Defo not gonna argue.

    If not quite perfect, he was damn marvelous ..
     
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  6. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No such thing. Every fighter named in this thread isn’t perfect. Any name you bring up won’t be perfect.

    I think you should use the word “complete” instead and you’ll have better answers.
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Ray Robinson at welter and early middle comes to mind. Benny Leonard needs a mention.

    I won't suggest he's in the conversation but Bud Crawford sure looks impressive. If he had stepped up more earlier in his career, and succeeded, he might be one discussed.
     
  8. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Salvador Sanchez are the two that come to mind historically but I think Crawford is something special, I just don’t think he has enough time left to improve his resume, I think he beats Canelo if he takes a warmup at 168, but I think he’s game enough that he might possibly take it sooner.
    I’m my time he is the only fighter that is close to being complete, back foot, front foot, orthodox or southpaw he always looks composed.
     
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  9. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    This is all about tribalism and not wanting to back down from a position. now that we can all talk to each other and everything we say will be recorded forever and might be used to beat us with, being a fan is potentially serious business. How invested are you in being proven right?

    We are enjoying the efforts of entertainers who are also artists and athletes. To me watching high level boxing between 2 guys that want to exchange is like watching virtuoso musicians trade licks live onstage.
     
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  10. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Robinson!

    I know we don’t have his whole career on tape, but he’s the first that comes to mind when I think of complete.
     
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  11. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no such thing as perfect, but closest human that I could call that is Loma.

    His movements are impeccable
     
  12. PistolPat

    PistolPat Active Member Full Member

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    No such thing as a perfect boxer. Even if you combined Floyd, Benitez and Sweet Pea's defense it would not be a perfect defense. You'd also need Hearn's like reach, Julian Jackson's power, Naseem's ability to throw at odd angles, James Toney's chin, Roy Jones speed, Tyson's ability to move at the waist.

    Then you have to account for specialists in best jabs, hooks, uppercuts, south paw and orthodox.
     
  13. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Motivated Ladislao Mijangos comes to mind instantly. Look at how he out-performed George Foreman here.

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  14. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Loma is great but lacks power to be in this conversation, same with Usyk. If both those fighters had power they would be my choices.
    As of now my votes are:
    Lewis (I can see arguments for him not to be on this list but he’s a heavyweighter)
    Inoue
    Crawford
    Hagler
    They all are technical, powerful, can take a punch without doing many mistakes and are tough winners.
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    The problem with the question is that good fighters will smartly play to their strengths from early in their career. They go with who brought them to the dance. Thus, even though they could have had other excellent facets, they engage with their strong suit. I remember when Manny took over an aged Chavez, Sr., he was surprised by Julio's slick defensive stylings in sparring. Not that Julio didn't employ great defense in matches but, as was his strong suit, he was out there to break guys down and stop them. A good fighter knows what he is best at and what sort of fight to engage where he has the most advantage over his opponent.