A graph showing Wilders Supremacy

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Muhahahah. Stiverne, Arreola, Brezeale, you kidding me?
    By that logic, AJ beat unbeaten Charles Martin, who was IBF Champion. AJ beat unbeaten Brezeale. Povetkin, Pulev, Ruiz who was Champion, Parker who was Champion, Klitschko, unbeaten Whyte, Wallin was top 10 in every ranking, including ring when AJ beats him. Won't even mention Usyk name.
    Why are Wilder defenders always lying???
    Alao do you realise AJ have just 30 or so total fights, when Wilder had 45 +??? AJ is also 4-5 years younger...

    AJ constantly tried and Unified the division, while Wilder never ever even atempted to do so.
    How could AJ gets the fight with Martin, Klitschko, Parker and Wilder not even once try it to?
     
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  2. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whose defences are more impressive?

    wilders 10 or Fury’s 3 against Wilder, Chisora and Whyte?
     
  3. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can **** can Wilders 10 defences but Fury’s is shockingly bad as well lol
     
  4. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    That’s the truth that’s why.
     
  5. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    I know, I brought AJ up as it’s an interest point when being critical of a resume to also do the same with peers.

    on a side note, I comment on what I wish to comment on. if you didn’t bring up AJ, I can talk about him as you don’t dictate what I wish to say. I think he’s had an excellent career and it’s good to look comparatively.

    for eg. Fury won world title the same year as wilder. He has had 3 defences, wilder, whyte and Chisora.
     
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  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    :lol:
    Wilder was a Glass Jawed Fraud with a carefully crafted and planned career. He also seems to be suffering from CTE now from beatings from feather fisted Fury.
     
  7. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Did you read my message? This is based off ring magazine, not my opinion.
    I credited AJ with his too and included Martin etc as they are legit fights.

    A point I think a lot of the so called fans of boxing on here I think are missing is that every prospect/ticket seller has a “managed” career.
    That includes fury, AJ, wilder etc etc.

    There are even highly specialist job roles known as a matchmaker, the best get paid a lot and are used for the top guys.
    Mike Tyson, one of my faves, had one of the best management teams in the business.
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Now you are swerving off topic.
    Fact is that Wilder had 10 title defenses and only fought 5 top 10 contenders in his career. Granted, he did fight Ortiz twice and Fury 3 times.
    In the end he went 3-4-1 against world ranked opposition.
     
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  9. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Yes, that's what I wonder. Why there is no ranking in the faces of the graphic?
     
  10. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    :facepalm: Right.
    If you consider Johann Duhaupas, Eric Molina and Gerald Washington legitimate world ranked contenders, then I have nothing further to add.
     
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  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why are you celebrating that you POS ****. How low can one go.
     
  12. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Wilder had it coming. How many times did he say he wants to kill an opponent?
    Wilder was adamant that he wanted to know what it is to kill another man in the ring, thus I for one don´t care if people aim such comments at him. He is to be treated how he treats others.
     
  13. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I honestly do not understand the need to pick and choose who out of the top rated fighters in the world you recognize as "legit" top tens in the first place but this trend amongst fans to then take their fan theory ratings and plaster them as criticism to a real champion's career is ... well ... insanity.

    Heaps of people fought highly rated flash in the pans but it seems to always be something that exclusively follows American black fighters as a criticism.

    Wlad had a decade as champion and in that time managed a resume of no names, and absolutely zero legendary highlight reel performances. Wlad's known for nothing other than his time as champion. He's also European and white so time as champion is good enough to not nitpick which of his opponents were "legit" contenders.


    It's pretty translucent. Just saying, y'all do a bad job hiding the chip on your shoulder.
     
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  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    There is no way Brezeale was top 10 for Wilder, as AJ KO him previously. Doubt Arreola or Stiverne 2 was in that list as well.
    Other than that i agree with you completely. I don’t have a problem with Wilder record previously to his title, as he didn't havw much experience as amateur as he started boxing very lately. Even with some of his early defenses.
    I have problem though he decide to play it safe after that and make a career based on AJ name. Not once he try ro Unify the division. Wilder become champion before AJ and had 5 year in boxing before AJ turned pro.
    Also cherry-picking Fur, who was on 2 year ban vacation, over Undisputed and then 100m career high payday is what ruined his whole legacy for me.

    Everyone loses eventually if you are fighting hungry young guns or even dangerous opponents or when you gets old, so how many loses fighter have for me is irrelevant. The problem is when are milking your 0 or that title. But that ain't just Wilder. Fury ain't better in that regard as well. Wilder at least was active.
     
  15. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Poor Wilder fanboy is mad his woman beating hero is a total disgrace.