How much of a chance would you give Valuev against Zhang

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  1. RGBoxing

    RGBoxing Member Full Member

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    But what if he was still around after lsix rounds and big bang starts to gas ?
     
    RGBoxing, Jun 10, 2024
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    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    I think that after the sixth round, Valuev's chances would only increase... with each subsequent round.
     
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    "Starts" to gas???

    He's usually pretty far gone by the end of the sixth.
     
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  4. RGBoxing

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    Yeah big bang like most of his fight if not all of them now he has stepped up need to win in the first half
     
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  5. Unique Way

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    It's a very big "IF". It was proven over and over again you can't survive really hard puncher relying on your chin only. You need more than that - movement, defense etc. Like Parker. Valuev had neither movement nor defense needed for avoiding getting hit by Zhang. That means he would be put to sleep early
     
    Unique Way, Jun 10, 2024
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    100%. There is no comparison. Valuev was so much bigger but also so much more technical and cerebral.
     
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    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I honestly believe Valuev has a much better chance here than most are giving him credit for.

    Valuev was actually a good athlete, but people tend to remember his later years after he declined. And as Emanuel Steward once mentioned, Valuev's decline was sudden and fast, in a way that you do not usually see. The drop-off for Valuev was indeed drastic as far as those things usually tend to go.
     
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    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Any half decent HW who gets past 5 rounds with Zhang has an excellent chance of beating him.

    Can Valuev last 5 rounds?
     
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    Kari Wuhrer and Shannon Tweed said SNV was the best lover they've ever had, and by some distance.
     
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  10. Unique Way

    Unique Way Active Member Full Member

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    Peak Valuev, the very best version of him, lost about 10-11 rounds against small southpaw Chagaev.
     
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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    That was a competitive fight, and the score cards reflected that except for one judge which made it overly wide and the commentators disagreed on that card.

    It's hard to fight a fast, mobile, short, skilled heavyweight/cruiser like Chagaev when he ducks, weaves, bobs and Valuev is 13 inches taller.

    It would be a different story against a stationary 6'6 guy like Zhang with Valuev landing a lot more clean power shots
     
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    Unique Way Active Member Full Member

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    It wasn't competitive at all, it was schooling. Valuev's promoters ruled that event but even they couldn't rob Chagaev like they did rob Donald and ancient Holyfield
     
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    Unique Way Active Member Full Member

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    Here is Valuev at his absolute physical peak fighting old, fat 5'9" cruiserweight Marcelo Dominguez who said he didn't have a single round of sparring prior to this fight. And peak Valuev looks absolutely awful here, as you can see:
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  14. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    In no way was it competitive. Chagaev won at the very least 9 rounds clearly (more like 11 rounds). Valuev was absolutely clueless

    Chagaev's fights vs Carl Drummond and Travis Walker were WAY more competitive than his schooling of Valuev
     
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    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    Dominguez arguably won that fight. And yes that was shot fat Dominguez
     
    Usyk is the best, Jun 11, 2024
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