Is Pancho Villa overrated?

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  1. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    I've seen some rank him as high as the second greatest flyweight of all time and I fail to see the justification for it outside of a win over an faded Wilde. Was he an ATG flyweight or is he overrated because of his death at a young age?
     
  2. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Wilde
    2. Canto
    3. Perez
    4. Wolgast
    5. Lynch
    6. Genaro
    7. Villa
    8. Kingpetch
    9. Obha
    10. Accavello

    He's #7 for me.

    A survey where 20-something posters voted a few years back had him at #5.

    ATG Flyweight? Yes.

    Top 2 all time Flyweight? No.
     
  3. Pete grigg

    Pete grigg New Member Full Member

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    No
     
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  4. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IDK if I'd rank him as high as #2, but he also had wins over several other quality fighters of his era like Bud Taylor (HoFer), Kid Williams (HoFer), Abe Goldstein, & Johnny Buff.
     
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  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This looks about right to me. I could see bumping him up one spot to sixth or down one to eighth but those guys are on basically the same tier — this top five is a cut above, a dropoff below that in class.

    (And I’d argue Perez for No 2 but Wilde is a clear No. 1 to me.
     
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  6. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Genaro beating Villa 3 out of 3 makes it difficult for me to see Villa above him, otherwise I agree, I'm happy with the top 5 and wouldn't argue too hard if someone had Kingpetch above Villa.
     
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  7. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frankie Genaro is my top pick.
     
  8. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Mexican revolutionary?
     
  9. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've heard he was great in a war, but vulnerable to sharpshooters.
     
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