Usyk confirms Fury was his toughest fight

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I love how you say Fury is bigger and Usyk is way off his Prime... but Fury is probably further away from his physical prime than Usyk is. Fury looked much slower after Covid. 2020 Fury and 2021 Fury was night and day.

Usyk has kept himself in shape, Fury has not. I know Usyk is older in terms of age, but Fury is older in terms of actual aging. Two people the same age in years can be different ages on a biological level if one of them abuses their body or has been under more stress.

The reality is this - Fury would have won that fight on the cards if it wasn't for the KD. Usyk had to step it up to a gear he's never had to before.

He hurt Fury more than anyone ever hurt him before, and I've never seen Usyk that brutal before. Usyk proved that if he wants to he can do those things.

The Usyk that dominated Joshua was gear 3 Usyk, gear 5 Usyk was the one you saw in round 8/9 in the fury v usyk fight.

 

I never mentioned Joshua. I was comparing a 31 year old fighting Briedis with a 37 year old fighting Fury. Fury's condition is less relevant - it isn't obvious that it would make arguments around Usyk's claim stronger or weaker.

Usyk, himself, can be as fit as a butchers dog, but he can't fight biological reality. 28 used to be considered prime for fighters across martial arts due to being a balance of experience and nearer to the physical peak of our 20s. We can say that has been pushed back by modern training methods, but the further you go into your 30s the worse the drop off gets, and you need to hope your accumulation of experience pulls you through.

Usyk has had 22 professional fights so it's logical that most of his experience comes from his 350 amateur fights. So, I don't see 8 pro fights of experience being a good trade off for his 6 years further away from his physical peak.

Which is why Briedis and Fury both being his hardest opponents is a matter of age and perspective

 

Repetition of the same hot air. You’re very much prone to self projection, aren’t you? And often from the sidelines - very admirable.

Yes, it would be rare for a certain contingent of Fury fans (yourself , very much included) to read anything beyond a few sentences, especially when they can’t refute the content.

It’s like walking into a remedial English class where the students absolutely lack any self awareness. “Nah, we’re nort the dumb ones here, <s******, s******>”. Good Lawd.

The Tyson Fury mutual support group continues to keep it vacuous and ignorant while desperately feeding on those bread crumbs.

Perhaps it might also help if you get out there and down a few pints with angsty Fury - I’m sure he’d appreciate the hot air you’ve spewed out here.

 

Of course you read my posts.

You had already wrapped up your reply to Finkel BUT upon and due to my highlighting of your blatant omission in not addressing the question of age, you immediately posted an “addendum” reply to Finkel to “address” the age factor.

Lol, you’re not fooling anyone but yourself and your reply was nonsensical at any rate.

 

Still blowing hot air...in what clearly is your very own COPE thread.

 

Lol i get some people refuse to read the same stuff from certain posters, who just repeat the same stuffs and don't wan't to waste their time, but this ain't Twitter, and you always make point and arguments and stating facts. So if a post is well argumented, it would be long obviously, especially when you are making different points and talk different topics.
They just mad. Going from Usyk doesn't stand a chance, to now Fury being his harder opponent, and aome people still in denial it was a close fight, while it wasn't at all. You are the man, keep the front buddy.

 

The only thing I can think of to possibly dispute here is that Usyk isn't what he used to be and his engine ain't what it has been in times past. Fury? Sure. He's a man after my own heart: work hard, play hard. As far as I can tell, Usyk is kinda' more like Beterviev or The Alien or Floyd Mayweather or maybe Bud Crawford: they live the life of an elite athlete that intends to remain so. But I also kinda think he trains within the bounds of reason and with calculation considering his age, which Beterviev may not. Conclusion is that maybe his inevitable physical decay will continue to be outpaced by the ever increasing excellence of his craft for a few years yet.

I would be surprised if Fury wins other than an obviously bad decision next time.

 

If that warms you, when you getting to the bed....
In reality a heavy past prime version of Usyk smashed Fury to pieces, outlanded him in 10 to 2 rounds in both total punches and impactful/power ones.
And in reality Usyk should have won in Round 9 by TKO, and everyone knows it.

 

I still think it was Briedis.

 

Wrong. This was one of the best Fury version there ever was. This was confirmed by his own fans and most importantly from his team before the fight, that this is the best Fury. Everyone was saying this, media, Fury team, everyone around him.
Also Usyk has 350 amateur fights and trained his *** off and every single camp is as hard as you can get. A fight is 12 rounds, but during a camp you are prolly going to spar more than 100+ rounds for a given fight. Krassyuk has said that Usyk has sparred more than 150 rounds or so for Fury.
And this is for every single fight.

What also is a big difference is Usyk ain't taking easy fights, and can't let his body a proper rest.
While Fury was doing exactly this, as in his whole career he had just a couple of hard fights, where he needed to push hard. The rest are easy fights, like Chisora 3, Ngannou(not that it turns out to be easy lol), etc.

While Fury abusing of his body definitely taking it's tool, but leaving it all in the gym surely has taken a lot from Usyk, and you can't compare the 2, as Fury never had to go through hell in his camps as many times as Usyk.
Actually Fury lay off and easy fights, may have saved a few years out of his career.

Also it's not just age, as you say, but you missed the most important part - styles, and attributes the fighter possess.

While Fury surely has attributes that decline with age, his main assets are his size, aka weight, height, reach, and even strength due to all of his.
Usyk main ones are the first to go with age - speed, footwork speed, cardio/energy/punch output, reflexes/reaction time. And fighting someone that is so much bigger not making thing easier.

If you don't see how much Usyk has slipped than i don't know what to say. I have said this in the first AJ fight, that this wasn't prime Usyk, but was still a good version of him. The one that faced Fury, was not a good version of him. Nowhere near that. His punch output is halved for no good reason, the lateral movement is almost gone, his reflexes and speed is clearly big time on decline, and he just doesn't move his upper body as much as he has done it in the past.

The first point of decline for Martial Arts athlete are around 32-33, and then you start declining slowly. After 35 that process accelerate, and after 37 it's accelerate once more, and then it will slow and then accelerate again after 40 or so.

How many miles you have under the clock is super important, and Usyk is prolly leading this one, as of his amateur fights and hard training camps he has done.
And 1 thing we all forget to mention is the genetics that play the most part.
No matter how hard you train, your body may still decline to a lot faster rate to others, even if they don't train as hard, and not doing thing as perfect as you, as this is genetics, and you can't do a s****.
So just because someone is a professional, doesn't mean they will have the body/genetics to be in their prime or close to it after 35. And Usyk is long time past the 35 age mark.

And also we are comparing athletes of a complete different age. As when you are 28, it doesn't matter if you are opponent are 2 years younger or older, but when you are 35-36-37, every single year count big time.
If you compare 35 years old Usyk, to 35 years old Fury, yeah Usyk was obviously going to be fresher, but he is 19 months older.
37 years old Usyk would be probably be way fresher than 37 years old Fury no doubt, but Fury is 19 months younger, and this always be a fact. We are not comparing 2 athletes that are the same age.

P.P. Lastly their punch output. Fury throws 570 or so punches, which is close to his best.
Usyk throws 400+, when against AJ 2 he throws 700+.
Come again tell me which fighter is in huge decline.
Fury punch output, given the fight pace was one of his best ever. Prolly career highest if you include the pace the fight has been fought. Usyk was prolly his career lowest over the course of 12 rounds. This ain't my opinion, this is the facts.