Prime George Foreman vs Zhang

Give me a spell.

Foreman beat Frazier, Norton, Lyle, Peralta, etc.

Zhang beat the mug Joe Joyce.

Zhang is a footnote. A nobody. Not good enough to even get a title shot and never will be.

And you think he’s competitive against George Foreman? Hilarious.

 

OK, so it's 11 kos in 56 fights Jimmy Young, who dropped Foreman and basically had him ready to go.

 

New guys aren’t automatically better than old guys.

I think Floyd Patterson would be quite competitive with Zhang.

People fall all over Zhang because he beat someone who was always a chimera with a big right hand.

 

I never said that new guys are automatically better, I'm saying that tons of guys just have boners for old fighters and can't wrap their heads around the fact that new guys could still be competitive with em.

And yeah, I agree with you there, I think that it could be a sort of fight where Patterson keeps getting up to win rounds and score good points and shots on the big man to either a good decision, or an untimely KO. This all depends on what Patterson we're talking about, though. The 50's and early 60's Patterson could get up from hard hits but was more likely to be dazed and fall victim to more punishment that could lead to his demise as where the older Patterson was slightly more resilient.

And I don't know who specifically you're talking about in this context, but I think that he's good because he's got a combination of things that make him a big problem for many a fighter. He's a big man with surprisingly fast hands, a strong punch, a strong chin, and good technical ability.

 

Thanks for the laugh mate.

 

@cross_trainer The "he" being referred to here is Zhang not Foreman.

Just thought I should clarify things because you seem to be liking any and everything anti Foreman, and seem to be falsely under the impression, this post is anti-Foreman as well.

 

Foreman in under 4

 

Him wearing down and scoring a knockdown on Foreman is not as big of a negative thing for Foreman as you think. And seriously? Had him "ready to go"? You are crazy.
I guess there's just no winning this argument on either side.

 

“Ready to go,” LOL. Do you mean a knockdown Foreman was up from so rapidly, Cosell mistook it for a slip?

 

To begin with, George Foreman is my favorite fighter of all time in the only sport I follow. Gave up following football after the Plunkett Raiders. Quit watching MMA after Ken Shamrock.

Man, I know I'm here in Classics, but I don't buy that Zhang just automatically has faster hands or is more skilled or has higher ring iq than any iteration of Big George. I don't buy that Foreman would be dwarved in any way. I'm ripe for correction, but wasn't the guy that 19 y/o George KO2'd a much bigger, fully-adult, peak athletic product and representative of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics at the very apex of it's greatness? Do you think that opponent lacked for anything? In 1968 Mex Df Mex you think that opponent was denied the benefits of peak Soviet science? That whatshisname (Chepilis, yes?) had confidence in a comfy retirement if he LOST? By KO even?

George would know to tire dude out and then beat the crap out of him. Any iteration of George had better feet, understanding of distance and bearing than the latest flavor of the month from New Jersy, Big Bang.

Seriously.

 

The "knockdown" was an exhausted Foreman tripping over his own feet from a cuffing punch that had the combined force of three babies. He ripped straight up to his feet trying to fight on believing he tripped. Technically passes as a KD just like plenty of other similar events over history.

 

Take solace in the vote, Foreman is up 29 votes to 4 and 3 of the 4 would vote for Lady Diana over peak George if it were polled.

 

Zhang might suffer from the same fate Holyfield described.

Sure, Big Bang immediately executes the ducking of the head upon spying the launch of Foreman’s punch.

However, by the time Zhang’s head comes back up - Bang, that very same punch will have just arrived to hit him square between the eyes.

Timing your opponent is just as important as hand speed. George had great timing.